I-35 Bridge in Minneapolis collapses

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HalcyonKC wrote: Kansas: 25,511 bridges
Missouri: 23,883 bridges
That probably isn't counting pedestrian bridges.  Otherwise, Missouri would be in the lead.  (Kidding)
Kard wrote: There has been a large shift in where bridges live in the last 30 years; many have fled the Missouri side for Kansas. 
And, about 99% of all the bridges in Kansas are located at 119th & Metcalf.  :lol:
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Can somebody overlay this with a map showing fuel taxes?
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HalcyonKC wrote: Kansas has more bridges than Missouri, according to msnbc.  Interesting, and contrary to what I would have guessed.

Kansas: 25,511 bridges
Missouri: 23,883 bridges

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20093413/
KS probably claims half of MO's, you know, like they do with the stadiums and the skyline and the airport and everything else in Kansas City ;).

It's a joke....

Seriously, where the hell are these bridges in KS and how many of them are longer than 30 feet and wider than one or two lanes.  I just don't see it.
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GRID wrote: Seriously, where the hell are these bridges in KS and how many of them are longer than 30 feet and wider than one or two lanes.  I just don't see it.
There's a lot about Kansas, that you just don't see.
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GRID wrote: Seriously, where the hell are these bridges in KS and how many of them are longer than 30 feet and wider than one or two lanes.  I just don't see it.
Have you been to KS lately?

http://www.kansas.com/news/state/story/138913.html

Only three states -- Texas, Ohio and Illinois -- had more bridges than Kansas in 2005, federal data showed.
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There are more bridges in Kansas than most people think. with most county roads laid out in a grid, the stream crossings tend to add up. For instance a 10 mile stretch of stream would net you 10 bridges in this stretch. With each bridge down the way getting a little longer to compensate for the wider banks of the stream. The county that I am originally from had about 25% of their bridges in good shape, 25% were Fair and the rest were poor. the poor ones were on roads that were not traveled much. The county though kept replacing the worn out bridges as they became a problem to make them safer. One one instance they replaced a bridge on a road that was prone to flooding and later had to redo the road to get it more solid.
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Annie has it right! Lock, I have spent a great deal of time in rural Kansas examining their roads. I know they have a lot of "tiny" bridges.
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  That bridge was blown.I have family members that build bridges and highways and they were stunned
at the footage saying that it went down just like an ordinary demo.I even read on the bbc that they
had an eyewitness report  from a man that walked every day under that bridge and on the day before,
he spotted bore holes in the supports.I am not an alarmist but after this happened,all major brigdes
were inspected as i watched then inspect the burlington bridge.I was worried about this sort of thing happening when a large amount of c-4 explosive came up missing at an armory outside st louis.
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Every weekday I stand underneeth the I7o bridge at Kansas Ave here in Topeka and I tell you underneeth this thing you can hear every truck that travels over the top uf it. This bridge is over 39 years old and still looks as good as the day they put it up. I am surprised that anything that is tiis old can hold up as good as this.
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  you should drive over the bridge just before my shop! its mostly wood and the planks keep popping
up! some times you have to get out with a hammer and nail them down again.
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KC0KEK wrote: Can somebody overlay this with a map showing fuel taxes?
Or a map showing where existing highway funds are funneled into useless earmarks?
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They are discussing getting Calatrava or some other starchitect to design a new iconic replacement for the !-35 West Bridge.  Will it take a tragic collappse to get an iconic reopaclemt for our I-35/I-29 Bridge?
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moderne wrote: They are discussing getting Calatrava or some other starchitect to design a new iconic replacement for the !-35 West Bridge.  Will it take a tragic collappse to get an iconic reopaclemt for our I-35/I-29 Bridge?
no.  our reopaclemt is scheduled to start in '08.
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Kard wrote: no.  our reopaclemt is scheduled to start in '08.
O'RLY?  the paseo bridge?
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Kard wrote: no.  our reopaclemt is scheduled to start in '08.
And it didn't even take a tragedy!
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But with the design/build scheme we will not even know what it looks like till the contract is given.  No starchitect, no great design I bet.
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moderne wrote: But with the design/build scheme we will not even know what it looks like till the contract is given.  No starchitect, no great design I bet.
didn't we get an extra bump in federal funds specifically to move up to a "signature" bridge? doesn't take a starchitect to come up with something interesting...
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Hey guys! Spell check. I know that you have been on me for a while.
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Gladstoner wrote: Or a map showing where existing highway funds are funneled into useless earmarks?
That is precisely the issue.  Fuel taxes and social sceurity taxes have been misallocated from the get go...
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BVC wrote: That is precisely the issue.  Fuel taxes and social sceurity taxes have been misallocated from the get go...
Speeking of Social Security, Do you know that it takes up to 2 years on a disability case for a Judicial review to be heard for Social Security benefits. It takes shorter to find a job helping to build a bridge than getting Dissability.
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