Bice

[KCMax]

Carrabba's or Zio's seems more like the polished mass-market chain that would appeal to Cordish.

[KC-wildcat]

Garozzo's.  Italian Gardens rebirth. 

[staubio]

Italian Gardens rebirth. 

I've heard there will be an actual Italian Gardens rebirth.

[PumpkinStalker]

As someone who never ate there before they closed, tell me more. 

[cityscape]

The wife and I ate at Bice last night.  Service was excellent and the food was good, not great, but good.  Prices were a tad high for what we ate, but overall we enjoyed ourselves.  The entire district was dead, hardly anyone coming and going, although Bristol seemed busy.  We would rate Bice as a B mostly because we considered the food as just good and the decor is a little bland.  Otherwise they definitely had the best service of all the restaurants that we've eaten at in the P&L. 

On a side note, our favorite place to drink is definitely the rooftop bar at Bice!  Great views and good service.

[kcjak]

I also think the rooftop bar at Bice is one of the best places to have a drink in the city.

As someone who never ate there before they closed, tell me more. 

I had the misfortune to eat at Italian Gardens before they closed...I still wake up in a cold sweat at night thinking about it.  Everything about it from the floors to the servers to the decor was a throwback to the 1950s/60s.  The marinara had the consistency of and tasted like tomato soup.  Taking the suggestion of the server, I tried the linguine w/clams and the clams were from a can.  I always heard how this place was an institution and how the FFA attendees always went there, so I was excited to try it.  I can't imagine that I was there on a night when things were 'off' because it was just sooo bad in so many ways.  Am I the only one to have had a bad experience?

[Midtownkid]

I also think the rooftop bar at Bice is one of the best places to have a drink in the city.

I had the misfortune to eat at Italian Gardens before they closed...I still wake up in a cold sweat at night thinking about it.  Everything about it from the floors to the servers to the decor was a throwback to the 1950s/60s.

Aww, I liked how old school it was.  No, not glamorous anymore but it had nostalgic charm.  I can't say I remember the food being excellent, but it wasn't horrid or anything.  I miss it. 

[trailerkid]

Don't know if it was mentioned before, but Bice Group set up a local web site for their triad operation in the P+L District:

http://bistrokansascity.bicegroup.com/9/home.html

I think they thought the nightlife operation would carry the whole operation. Cordish needs to just let them have a chunk of the pie and expand the Bice Lounge as another destination within the P+L.

[Midtownkid]

I still have never been there...too many other new places to try when I am in town.  It actually looks nice, from the photos.  I can see where people think it looks a little bland and suburban...but I do think it looks pretty nice.  The floor and chairs are cool.  The food looks good, but I guess it's not, hu?

[KCPowercat]

I don't get the suburban feel when I'm in there...I like the more modern starker type of layout...and the patio is really cool.

[Midtownkid]

I might have to take my friends there after we go to the new movie theater.  I sort of wanted to go to Czar and JPs though.  We can Bar hop! 

[KCTigerFan]

In spite of their ups and serious downs with food, I still feel that the rooftop patio is the best in the City. 

[KCMax]

I moved some of the conversation to the P&L thread here:

http://forum.kcrag.com/http://www.kcrag ... 93#p400393