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Bluhawk

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby joshmv » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:38 pm

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... -star.html

Price Brothers plans to develop a $75 million arena anchored by a United States Hockey League team in BluHawk, a 300-acre mixed-use project under development in south Overland Park.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby kboish » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:53 pm

1 million more square feet of retail for southern JoCo. sheesh

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby flyingember » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:54 pm

Another hockey project!

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby smh » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:15 pm

kboish wrote:1 million more square feet of retail for southern JoCo. sheesh


The key sentence from the article: "We're trying to create demand for retail." FFS.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby joshmv » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:24 pm

smh wrote:
kboish wrote:1 million more square feet of retail for southern JoCo. sheesh


The key sentence from the article: "We're trying to create demand for retail." FFS.


Just for clarity, this is the quote: "We're trying to create the demand before the retail"

They are waiting to build most of the retail components until the population grows in that area, what's the issue?

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby FangKC » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:48 pm

I wonder if this arena will put the brakes on the arena that was being talked about for Village West in Wyandotte County, that also included the American Royal. I think that arena was being pitched as a possible hockey venue.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby smh » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:11 pm

joshmv wrote:
smh wrote:
kboish wrote:1 million more square feet of retail for southern JoCo. sheesh


The key sentence from the article: "We're trying to create demand for retail." FFS.


Just for clarity, this is the quote: "We're trying to create the demand before the retail"

They are waiting to build most of the retail components until the population grows in that area, what's the issue?


Apologies, I misread the article. Regardless, the issue is that this just shifts supply from elsewhere in the metro hollowing out areas in northern OP.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby shinatoo » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:54 pm

That's how they built Overland Park.
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Re: Bluhawk

Postby joshmv » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:13 pm

smh wrote:Apologies, I misread the article. Regardless, the issue is that this just shifts supply from elsewhere in the metro hollowing out areas in northern OP.


Agreed. Sounds like a great development, but I hate that it's so far south even though I'm at 119th and Antioch. I guess it shouldn't be any surprise when the newest high school is sitting at 179th. At this point the sprawl is almost as wide as DFW without anywhere close to the density.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby chingon » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:37 pm

joshmv wrote: At this point the sprawl is almost as wide as DFW without anywhere close to the density.

KC 's sprawl is not as dense as Dallas - though Dallas is a moderately dense metro, denser than Philly, Boston, Minneapolis and many others - but KC's sprawl covers only like a third of the area of Dallas'. It is no where near as widespread.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby KCLover » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:43 pm

At what point are they going to start talking about another freeway loop...? Development is definitely already out to 179th street and somewhere around there is probably close to where it should be I'd think.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby mgsports » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:11 pm

They say Power Center. Hope the places are new OP or KC area. Also maybe Bowling/Movie Theater. But won't be a Minor League Team. DL Team?

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby joshmv » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:09 pm

chingon wrote:
joshmv wrote: At this point the sprawl is almost as wide as DFW without anywhere close to the density.

KC 's sprawl is not as dense as Dallas - though Dallas is a moderately dense metro, denser than Philly, Boston, Minneapolis and many others - but KC's sprawl covers only like a third of the area of Dallas'. It is no where near as widespread.


I was also trying to say KC's sprawl isn't as dense.

In regards to the spread of the sprawl, I was just talking about the distance from downtown between OP and the similar north Dallas suburbs. The distance from downtown Dallas to where Frisco stops is 28 miles. From downtown KC to Blue Valley Southwest high school is about 22 miles. Those aren't considering roads, just the direct distance. You could push the Dallas distance a little further if you wanted to include Prosper or McKinney.

I drove down to BluHawk tonight. Lots of work going on, but most of it is still in the early phases so there really wasn't anything worth taking pictures of.

Anybody know the chances of highway 69 being expanded beyond 4 lanes?

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby flyingember » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:22 am

joshmv wrote:
Anybody know the chances of highway 69 being expanded beyond 4 lanes?

unless the county pays for it, slim since the state started using kdot as a general funds source

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby cityscape » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:53 am

flyingember wrote:
joshmv wrote:
Anybody know the chances of highway 69 being expanded beyond 4 lanes?

unless the county pays for it, slim since the state started using kdot as a general funds source


I believe that part of the State's $8 billion KDOT plan approved a few years ago that there was a plan to expand 69 Hwy to 6 lanes all the way to 215th street (JOCO line). My guess is that Brownback's tax debacle has all but pushed that back years if not more. Problem is that 69 Hwy is starting to become one of the worst traffic jams in the metro during rush hours.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby mgsports » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:54 pm

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com ... b7ddc65cbe Says Bowling Alley/Theater new to area,Restaruants. Also Retail would be new to area.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby flyingember » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:59 am

mgsports wrote:Also Retail would be new to area.


This is never true in my experience. I see no reason to believe it will be true in this case

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby mgsports » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:29 am

What they mean is you won't see like Great Clips but maybe another Chain like it not here. Places like maybe Stage,Gohastings,Shopko or Meijer,Urban Outfitters,Bloomingdales,Bealls,Belk,Gander Mountain,HHGREGG and so on.

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Re: Bluhawk

Postby brewcrew1000 » Thu May 12, 2016 1:46 pm

I can't believe this thing is going is possibly going to be built.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/co ... 52837.html


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