Metro North Mall

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby loftguy » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:28 pm

Fang, the developer should bring you on as a consultant, pay well and pay attention.

Frankly, the men who started this development company would have embraced your concepts readily, in their early maverick days.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby mgsports » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:46 pm

Hopefully gets some good places and even new to area.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby FangKC » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:17 am

It just make the most sense in the long run. When a shopping center has failed, it's because it doesn't have enough customers nearby. Instead of trying to compete with every new shopping center in the area, and there will be more of them over time, it just seems prudent to place as many residents on-site or nearby as possible in denser settings. I would say for the most part, people don't automatically want to drive very far to meet their basic needs. Seniors especially want to live near where they shop. You want a built-in customer base for your retail.

When one looks on Google Aerials of the area around Metro North, it's obvious there was never enough density to support the retail segment long-term. Even where neighborhoods exist, they aren't dense. There are two few single family homes, and in many cases, they are on too large lots. Too much emphasis was placed on single family houses. There isn't enough mutli-family housing nearby.

If I were sitting on the City Council, and the developer was asking for city incentives to redevelop this property, I would be asking them why there isn't more emphasis on creating a lot more on-site housing.

The reason the Plaza has faired so well for so many decades is because it's surrounded by a lot of people. It has good established neighborhoods, as well as a lot of apartment buildings around it.

It is a high quality environment, and Metro North developers would be wise to think about that when drawing up their plans. The property needs to be distinct and have good architecture and landscaping. The City needs to make sure that some of the streets around the property need to be connected so that people can easily enter. Finally, the development needs to create real neighborhoods.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby SWFan » Tue May 03, 2016 4:56 pm

Without some kind of tenant that is unique to KC and/or to the Northland I just don't see this taking off with all the retail short distance in either direction over at ZR and Liberty. However, once they start building all the houses just NW of there, this area could become a hot commodity. I think the plan was for 10's of thousands of homes. The city recently finished all the infrastructure for the large open areas NW of 152/169.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby flyingember » Tue May 03, 2016 6:05 pm

75,000 people worth of homes in Second Creek. There's another 7-10 developments within reach of the site already underway like Staley Farms

Just for that area Platte County Schools is going to explode, easily quadrupling in size, and NKC Schools will need a fifth high school.

If you haven't been along the 152 corridor its on the front end of a housing boom like southern JoCo had.

Metro North is a smart investment right now

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby missingkc » Tue May 03, 2016 6:54 pm

Flying Ember, what's the huge infrastructure project you referenced in your tweet to the Mayor?

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby flyingember » Tue May 03, 2016 8:52 pm

missingkc wrote:Flying Ember, what's the huge infrastructure project you referenced in your tweet to the Mayor?


2012
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/ar ... nance.html

To achieve that for infrastructure improvements, the mayor called for issuing $100 million in bonds annually over the next 10 years.

If the City Council and voters approved, that level of borrowing probably would require a property tax increase. For the owner of a $150,000 house and a $15,000 car, city finance officials estimated those bond issues would cost an estimated $44 in additional taxes annually for each $100 million in bonds issued. So by the end of the 10 years, the annual increase could be more than $400.


With that money, the mayor proposed rebuilding depressed neighborhoods, six square blocks at a time, at $10 million to $15 million per project.

James also called for rebuilding 10 to 20 miles of roadway each year, at $5 million per mile. The city also would spend $20 million a year rebuilding sidewalks. And it would complete $60 million in needed bridge repairs.


Metro North is a good example of an area that could benefit from this.
My rough math says the sidewalk work is 2850 homes worth per year. Compare that to today's efforts.

The Metro North area is no east side, but there's a lot of room to build a walkable shopping center. There's crosswalks near bus stops that end at a curb and a lawn.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby mgsports » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:38 pm

http://www.colliers.com/-/media/images/ ... f?la=en-us G would be Grocery store,W would be Anchor.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby cor88b » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:20 pm

Is there any update to the status of the project? I have noticed all of the ford vehicles are back in the parking lot.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby cor88b » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:27 am

Pass by it everyday and still isnt being tore down. The news last month said the exterior was going to start being demo'ed in October.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby FangKC » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:28 pm

Published today in the UK's Daily Mail.

Inside America's 'creepiest' mall: Apocalyptic images capture abandoned shopping center weeks before derelict building is due to be torn down

Eerie photos capture possibly final look inside Missouri's Metro North Mall in Kansas City

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3936978/Apocalyptic-photos-Seph-Lawless-capture-abandoned-Metro-North-Mall-Kansas-City.html

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby dnweava » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:55 pm

A "top golf" type of driving range will be part of the development!

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby mgsports » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:11 pm

Sky Golf then?

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby scooterj » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:52 am

dnweava wrote:A "top golf" type of driving range will be part of the development!


Is there really a market for two of those so close together? There's already one going in at I-35 & 210.

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Re: Metro North Mall

Postby SWFan » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:00 pm

scooterj wrote:
dnweava wrote:A "top golf" type of driving range will be part of the development!


Is there really a market for two of those so close together? There's already one going in at I-35 & 210.


Seems like a bad idea, maybe after the development to the north of Metro Mall takes off it might make more sense. Personally between those two locations, the NKC seems a better fit. They'd pick up a fair sampling of the downtown crowd and then all of the Northland.


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