50s/Main development

Discuss items in the urban core outside of Downtown as described above. Everything in the core including the east side (18th & Vine area), Plaza, Westport, Brookside, Valentine, Waldo, 39th street, & the entire midtown area.
earthling
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 4089
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:27 pm

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby earthling » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:49 am

flyingember wrote:it's in a bad spot for anything less than the rave about best. it takes more driving knowledge and interest to not go down Wornall or Brookside, especially since Main is not a through street for that segment. and who can survive as a neighborhood destination next to the Plaza. Too much competition.

the perfect restaurant for the area is positioned for students to want to frequent it. because if they want to go, it becomes a spot

50th and Main needs something way more "airy" than a tavern.


^There are many restaurants in 50th/Main area that do well and have been around a long long time. That particular spot hasn't had good success but it's probably just about food and feel of place. I tried last two places once but wasn't good enough to go back. The last one tried too hard, overly complicated - tried to be a Plaza restaurant. Also didn't have a good 'hangout feel' for a B&G. They need to redesign the place a little and make it more comfy or something.

51st/Oak needs to cater to UMKC. This spot could cater to entire Bside/Plaza/UMKC area residents. Needs to have a better neighborhood feel, not try to be a metro destination restaurant. 51st/Main area is a good un-Plaza non-chain altie spot for those who don't want Plaza chains. It could use more ethnic eats like Thai, Ethiopian, Indian or contemp Asian fusion like Blue Koi. These are very big on the coasts and many who live S Plaza to Bside are either from the coasts or lean more adventurous eaters and seek that.

User avatar
KCMax
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 24051
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:31 pm
Location: The basement of a Ross Dress for Less
Contact:

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby KCMax » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:48 am

Eggstc and Mixx are always packed, Il Centro does very well, and that Planet Sub seems to be doing well. The location is not the problem.

geeman68
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 643
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:22 am
Location: Kansas City, MO

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby geeman68 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:00 pm

KCMax wrote:Eggstc and Mixx are always packed, Il Centro does very well, and that Planet Sub seems to be doing well. The location is not the problem.


SPIN, Glace, Andres, Minskys, Chipotle are all doing well in that area. It's not the location.

User avatar
Demosthenes
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:50 pm
Location: CBD

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby Demosthenes » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:26 pm

Here is an update of the mixed use building going in at 51st and Main street. So far things are looking very good and it is coming along pretty quickly. This will be a huge addition to the neighborhood. Can't wait to see the final product!

View of northern half of block. Building seems to be about as tall as it will be on the northern half. Sadly, as I want to see it keep growing!
Image Image

What appears to be the front door, and the view from 51st and Main:
Image Image

View of southern half of block, and sidewalk view along 51st street:
Image Image

Views from Baltimore:
Image Image

Sidewalk view on Main and sidewalk view on Baltimore:
Image Image

pash
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3801
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:47 am

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby pash » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:24 pm

.
Last edited by pash on Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
GRID
City Center Square
City Center Square
Posts: 14067
Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2003 12:20 pm
Contact:

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby GRID » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:46 am

awesome

moderne
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3851
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:50 pm
Location: downtown

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby moderne » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:37 pm

Van Tuyl to buy US Bank bldng at 4901 Main to rehab or tear down and build new.

kcjak
Valencia Place
Valencia Place
Posts: 1764
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:02 pm

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby kcjak » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:50 pm

moderne wrote:Van Tuyl to buy US Bank bldng at 4901 Main to rehab or tear down and build new.


A great bookend to his (former) Plaza Vista debacle.

User avatar
smh
Broadway Square
Broadway Square
Posts: 2702
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:40 pm
Location: Central Loop

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby smh » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:52 pm

moderne wrote:Van Tuyl to buy US Bank bldng at 4901 Main to rehab or tear down and build new.


New construction in this corridor should be required to include ground-floor retail. This is a great opportunity to expand on the walkability of the area which has been on the uptick the last few years.

User avatar
Demosthenes
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:50 pm
Location: CBD

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby Demosthenes » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:30 am

moderne wrote:Van Tuyl to buy US Bank bldng at 4901 Main to rehab or tear down and build new.


I hope this building isn't torn down. I actually like it fairly well. It addresses the street nicely (at least on Main) and could totally have ground floor retail. There is potential with this building.

dave_burgermeister
Parking Garage
Parking Garage
Posts: 6
Joined: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:34 pm

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby dave_burgermeister » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:01 pm

I was a cashier at CVS on 50th and main, the past 2 years. Seems like everyone in the metro checks out that area of the plaza, and a out of towners, talked to people from everywhere in and out of the us, brazil, Bronx, ny, everywhere. Even steven tyler of aerosmith went to buy some q tips there, also I sold tommy chong some cdrs.

User avatar
DaveKCMO
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 15741
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Crossroads
Contact:

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby DaveKCMO » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:35 pm

dave_burgermeister wrote:also I sold tommy chong some cdrs.


:lol:

dave_burgermeister
Parking Garage
Parking Garage
Posts: 6
Joined: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:34 pm

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby dave_burgermeister » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:01 am

^He talks like a stoner in real life too,,, "You got any cd's, man?"

User avatar
Demosthenes
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:50 pm
Location: CBD

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby Demosthenes » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:11 pm

Interestingly, this building has already been listed on an apartment website called AreaVibes. It has 620 Sq. ft. studios listed for $1095! Also has 1000 sq. ft. 1 bed/ 1 bath in the $1500-$1900 range and 1300 sq. ft. 2 bed/1 bath in the $2300-$2600 range! They have listed a special 2 bed/1 bath with a study that is 1627 sq. ft. and going for $3095...

I had never heard of this site before, but this is interesting to say the least. They have a couple renderings I hadn't seen of the building before too. I wonder if these listings are based in reality or if they are just pulling people's legs. Those are some pricey apartments! That's like Chicago prices.

I figured this building would be marketed toward college kids or freshly graduated, entry level people.

flyingember
One Park Place
One Park Place
Posts: 6060
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:54 am

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby flyingember » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:04 am

50th and Main is right in the area of some of the most expensive places to live in the city. there's no way it was ever going to be cheap

Plaza South has long been gentrified and then some.

User avatar
KCtoBrooklyn
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 533
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:01 pm

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby KCtoBrooklyn » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:33 am

Yeah, this has always been described as a "luxury" apartment development. I do think there is a shortage of true luxury apartments as most of the nicer buildings are condos - but I wonder if demand will be strong enough to keep this large building consistently full. Perhaps they plan on capturing the retiring and downsizing Sunset Hill and Brookside crowd.

User avatar
Demosthenes
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:50 pm
Location: CBD

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby Demosthenes » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:17 pm

Yea and the apartments and houses surrounding this development are full of many college kids too. It may be slightly upscale, but only slightly. This will no doubt be the most expensive apartment in this part of south plaza. Maybe not more expensive than kirkwood or the apartments just south of Ward Parkway, but in this part of south plaza it will be a difference maker. I think it will definitely be good for the area if these apartments are filled, just not what I expected.

Agreed, this seems like it is intended for the downsizing Sunset Hill crowd. The Country Club crowd.

User avatar
chaglang
Hotel President
Hotel President
Posts: 3121
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:44 pm

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby chaglang » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:39 am

There is a lot of money in the neighborhoods just south of Visitation and west of Wornall. Plus, the Walnuts. It's more of an indicator of the direction that neighborhood has been going in, rather than a catalyst.

User avatar
chrizow
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 16936
Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:43 am

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby chrizow » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:28 pm

i love that the AreaVibes listing touts the apartments' "Simulated Wood Plank Floors."

yeah, not really a justification for the prices, folks.

i dont know what they rent for now, but the apartments behind the peanut, etc. on Baltimore or whatever have always been super cheap. one of my friends lived in a 2-bed for like $550, although that was about 8 years ago. but hey, it had actual wood floors!

User avatar
taxi
Alameda Tower
Alameda Tower
Posts: 1484
Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:32 am
Location: North End
Contact:

Re: 50s/Main development

Postby taxi » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:38 pm

Save our Trees!


Return to “Urban Core”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests