50s/Main development

Discuss items in the urban core outside of Downtown as described above. Everything in the core including the east side (18th & Vine area), Plaza, Westport, Brookside, Valentine, Waldo, 39th street, & the entire midtown area.
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Re: 50s/Main development

Post by horizons82 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:38 pm

The H2 in the civil title is likely for Home2 Suites. So this thing is a dual brand like the Res Inn/Courtyard downtown. That would nullify it being a straight proto like shown above. I'd expect it to be something that melds architectural elements of both brands, likely with a fair amount of material change (brick?) to vibe with the nearby aesthetics. It's weird that elevations aren't shown with the site plans et al.

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Re: 50s/Main development

Post by chrizow » Thu May 03, 2018 12:25 pm

this may be addressed elsewhere - but what is up with all the hotel activity in KC in the last few years? who is staying in all these hotel rooms? has convention biz picked up, or is there something else driving it?

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Post by flyingember » Thu May 03, 2018 12:50 pm

I would say it was more about developers finally catching on there was opportunity downtown. When the Sprint Center made the list of the busiest arenas in the country I bet that's when all the planning begun.

Look at how many conventions moved out of town because they were using every hotel between downtown and Olathe.
Look at how few rooms there were and still are relative to the Sprint Center. We're just getting started on hotel space.

If we used every inch of space in the major downtown convention space at maximum capacity, and had two people per room, we would need 47,000 rooms available.

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Post by earthling » Thu May 03, 2018 1:44 pm

Yeah KC metro has a lot of rooms for its size and a non-major tourist market, 30K-35K rooms depending on how measured but the city core is lower than it should be. We need more rooms in the core but may mean KC metro will become overbuilt. Might hurt metro hotels to point of closure that don't have a steady use but that's the nature of the city making a comeback. BTW, if I recall stats correctly from back during KC's golden years, there were about 30K hotels just between downtown/midtown. Those refurbed apts along Armour used to be mostly hotels. But KC was a major convention destination back then.

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Post by flyingember » Thu May 03, 2018 1:51 pm

It certainly muddies the water comparing to today that many people lived permanently in a hotel room. I wonder how many of those 30k rooms would be called a furnished apartment now.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/36 ... -check-out

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Post by normalthings » Thu May 03, 2018 1:56 pm

earthling wrote:Yeah KC metro has a lot of rooms for its size and a non-major tourist market, 30K-35K rooms depending on how measured but the city core is lower than it should be. We need more rooms in the core but may mean KC metro will become overbuilt. Might hurt metro hotels to point of closure that don't have a steady use but that's the nature of the city making a comeback. BTW, if I recall stats correctly from back during KC's golden years, there were about 30K hotels just between downtown/midtown. Those refurbed apts along Armour used to be mostly hotels. But KC was a major convention destination back then.
I am very okay with those hotels dying (and maybe also the suburbs).

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Post by Darlene » Thu May 03, 2018 6:37 pm

I see a lot of cowboys in cowboy boots marching around downtown. Lots of people from the country in MO and KS come to Kansas City for things at the Power and Light and for a trip to the city. That is who is staying in them hotels.

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Post by GRID » Thu May 03, 2018 10:03 pm

Darlene wrote:I see a lot of cowboys in cowboy boots marching around downtown. Lots of people from the country in MO and KS come to Kansas City for things at the Power and Light and for a trip to the city. That is who is staying in them hotels.
From where? Texas? People in rural MO and KS don't really even wear cowboy hats unless they are gong to a country bar.

I worked in downtown for 12 years and almost never saw cowboy hats. Pretty much never see them anywhere in metro KC at all, except maybe the airport. I don't see how things have changed that much.

And what does this have to do with 50th and Main? lol

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Post by Darlene » Fri May 04, 2018 7:43 am

Somebody was asking who is coming to these hotels so I was answering that question. Well I did not say cowboy hats I said cowboy boots. Many people wear boots for there regular shoes. I see them all the time at power and light and the aquarium.

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Re: 50s/Main development

Post by taxi » Fri May 04, 2018 9:36 am

Whole Foods has cowboy hardhats half off!

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Post by chingon » Fri May 04, 2018 11:59 pm

People should wear more cowboy hats. It’s basically the climate appropriate headwear for our environment in the summer.

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Post by TheLastGentleman » Sat May 05, 2018 12:14 am

chingon wrote:People should wear more cowboy hats. It’s basically the climate appropriate headwear for our environment in the summer.
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Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:44 pm

The hotel project is going to CPC tomorrow and there are renderings as part of the staff report.

It is indeed a Hilton Home2 Suites and Tru combo. The design looks more like Home2 Suites than Tru.

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Re: 50s/Main development

Post by rxlexi » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:51 am

Yikes. I love the idea of a hotel at this location but would expect/desire something much more high-end than that H2 Suites.

Here's hoping for the best...

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Re: 50s/Main development

Post by loftguy » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:22 pm

chingon wrote:People should wear more cowboy hats. It’s basically the climate appropriate headwear for our environment in the summer.
Skirts are the most appropriate fashion in this humid environ.....let the tucked parts breathe.

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