14 Story apartment tower - Westport

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earthling wrote:If the streetcar were expanding along Broadway the developer could probably get by with a low ratio of garage parking but w/out it they'll not only likely need to have 1:1 parking per unit but the seller may have terms to include additional public parking.
the opus project in the crossroads (on broadway) is slightly less than 1:1 ratio. they're meeting the required minimums with additional bike parking.
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Bike parking has got to be one of the dumbest regulations in this city, and there are many to compete with.
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taxi wrote:Bike parking has got to be one of the dumbest regulations in this city, and there are many to compete with.
It's stupid by itself.

bike parking is a key prereq to get more people biking places.
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flyingember wrote:
taxi wrote:Bike parking has got to be one of the dumbest regulations in this city, and there are many to compete with.
It's stupid by itself.

bike parking is a key prereq to get more people biking places.
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Nearly every pro biking group I can find promotes bike parking. I would say you're firmly on the absurdly wrong side of this. Some groups say there's a bike parking shortage.

One clear impediment to bicycle use, however, is that most cities lack sufficient safe and convenient bicycle parking. Just as drivers need easy, secure parking, so do bicyclists.
http://www.changelabsolutions.org/publi ... ke-parking

Employees are less likely to cycle to work if their employer provides free car parking, and more likely to cycle to work if their employer provides bike parking and showers.
Mid-Atlantic Universities Transportation Center, 2009 - Trends and Determinants of Cycling in the Washington, D.C., Region
http://www.peopleforbikes.org/statistic ... statistics
http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/47000/47100/47120/VT-2009-05.pdf study referenced

I was really lucky last year. At my office, we were able to share a locked bike room in the parking garage. It even had lockers. Now, the garage is under renovation, and no one knows if we'll get our room back. In the meantime, I don't want to leave my cherished bike exposed. I've seen too many bikes in the area chained to bike racks or street signs, that have been stripped.
https://ggwash.org/view/37584/heres-wha ... ing-a-bike

More bike lanes and bike-parking facilities smooth the way for cyclists
http://www.usgbc.org/articles/more-bike ... y-cyclists

Some communities are also making sure that bikers have a place to park their ride. A report from the League of American Bicyclists said that a Santa Monica, California ordinance stipulates that destinations have an adequate supply of bike racks, and also requires event organizers to have monitored bicycle parking for 200-250 bikes if attendance is expected to reach 1,000 or more, as well as three attendants to guard the area.
http://www.ecowatch.com/6-reasons-why-b ... 39432.html

Since cyclists need to know ahead of time where they'll be able to park their bikes, they can take advantage of mobile apps and real-time online maps of available locations. In the D.C. region, BikeArlington created RackSpotter, an interactive map of facilities in the area.
http://www.usgbc.org/articles/more-bike ... y-cyclists


Cycle parking is a key component in helping people choose to cycle.
Having a bike in a convenient but secure location near the front door, nearer than any car, is a great way to make people use their bike automatically, particularly for local journeys to shops and other amenities.
http://www.makingspaceforcycling.org/#cycleparking

The growth in cycling is a great thing, but the chronic shortage of bike parking is not. Transportation Alternatives advocates for increased funding to the NYC Department of Transportation's CityRack bike parking program.
http://bikingrules.org/biking/parking/
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I've never had a problem finding a place to park a bike in KC. But maybe you're right. Can you provide any supporting info or details?
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This is, I believe, the project shared as part of this thread.

http://maps.kcmo.org/kcgis/rest/service ... ments/8001

Now on the city's planning site.
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Got a 404 error with your link.
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The load time takes a while, direct link to PDF.

You could start on this site and find it on the map too: http://kcmo.gov/planning/development-tracker/
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It finally opened for me, but the PDF is a bit quirky.

So... I was assuming east side of the street. Based on the map, Is this going to do away with the coffeehouse and Char Bar? Seems odd.
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Wasn't this to be constructed atop the existing garage?
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Ha! I wonder how Char Bar feels about this. Not that I mind (though I really wanted to see that surface parking lot go bye bye).
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This project is goofy.
Tear down buildings and for new construction and still leave the ugly surface lot to the north.
Saving that 1/2 block walk to Kelly's means everything!
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NorthOak wrote:This project is goofy.
Tear down buildings and for new construction and still leave the ugly surface lot to the north.
Saving that 1/2 block walk to Kelly's means everything!
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It's about who owns the lot. I see this all the time in DC too. Maybe the surface lot is not for sale. Who knows. I guess I would get the backlash if they were proposing to tear down a historic 12 story building like what has been proposed on the plaza a couple of times. But really, you don't want to replace that one story strip mall with 550 apartment units?
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I live in the neighborhood and I think it's a good project. I also think it would be a shame to lose Greenroom, the coffeehouse and Char Bar.

I'm conflicted. I hear you about the lot being for sale - I just can't see what benefit anyone is getting from the lot to the North of the Westport Coffeehouse. Would be a great spot for a project like this. That corner sucks.
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There was a plan announced back in 2002 to develop that parking lot on the SW corner of 40th and Pennsylvania. Nothing ever happened, and then came the economic crash of 2008.
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Steve Block, a senior vice president of Block & Co. Inc., said he hopes to build 28 units at 40th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue. The site is down the street from the Mill Street Station shopping center, which Block helped develop.

Block said his plans were preliminary and said he'll need a zoning change and approval from Marsh's Sun Fresh, which anchors Mill Street Station.
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NorthOak wrote:This project is goofy.
Tear down buildings and for new construction and still leave the ugly surface lot to the north.
Saving that 1/2 block walk to Kelly's means everything!
Yeehaw Kanscity!
Just fyi, that surface lot to the north is owned by different people. Can't build on land you don't own.
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