Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Discuss items in the urban core outside of Downtown as described above. Everything in the core including the east side (18th & Vine area), Plaza, Westport, Brookside, Valentine, Waldo, 39th street, & the entire midtown area.
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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by earthling » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:42 am

Plaza loses luxury watch maker, moving to Leawood...
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... awood.html

Plaza had very low vacancy when new owners took over (0.6% Q1/2017, 1.6% Q2, %1.5 Q3 according to CBRE). Now it's about 3%, which is second best in metro but wrong direction.

BTW, downtown now has best/lowest retail vacancy in metro at 2.1%.

https://www.cbre.us/research-results?k=kansas%20city

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by jbean3535 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:28 pm

Talbots and Standard Style are now closed. Standard Style is being "rolled" into the new Baldwin Market opening in the 422 Nichols Road spot.

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Post by beautyfromashes » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:51 pm

jbean3535 wrote:Talbots and Standard Style are now closed. Standard Style is being "rolled" into the new Baldwin Market opening in the 422 Nichols Road spot.
I took the Standard Style but to be a positive. Sounds like they are banding more to the Baldwin name and going to open a larger flagship store. Not sure where it would be. Makes sense to put all the clothing stores in the same vicinity.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by kcjak » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:40 pm

As the retail landscape continues to change to more online, it's going to be harder to fill empty stores when they close. I wonder if this will be more local shops, restaurants or entertainment offerings? Interested in hearing what others think should open on the Plaza in an era when retail storefronts are dying?

On a side note, I heard a rumor that Williams Sonoma was closing because Capital Grille (or its parent company) wanted the space when the lease was up. Anyone know if that's true?

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by earthling » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:46 pm

^Which is why The Plaza may need a more drastic transformation as proposed here...
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20330&p=566308&hil ... ge#p566308

Post your ideas in that thread, I'll send to Plaza owners/operators again. I did send to them at time of discussion and got a simple acknowledgement but no feedback of any substance. Will send again if others want to continue posting ideas for some kind of change.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by smh » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:27 pm

kcjak wrote:As the retail landscape continues to change to more online, it's going to be harder to fill empty stores when they close. I wonder if this will be more local shops, restaurants or entertainment offerings? Interested in hearing what others think should open on the Plaza in an era when retail storefronts are dying?

On a side note, I heard a rumor that Williams Sonoma was closing because Capital Grille (or its parent company) wanted the space when the lease was up. Anyone know if that's true?
Red Lobster!? Olive Garden!?

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by swid » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:40 pm

If Darden wants that location, my gut feeling on what they'd put in there is a Yard House. Every other neighborhood between RM and Waldo has at least one beer bar/restaurant at this point.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by beautyfromashes » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:46 pm

swid wrote:If Darden wants that location, my gut feeling on what they'd put in there is a Yard House. Every other neighborhood between RM and Waldo has at least one beer bar/restaurant at this point.
You wouldn’t consider Tomfooleries or Grand Faloon beer bars? I am surprised there’s no a brewery. New KC Beir Co location?

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by swid » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:46 pm

Tomfooleries and Granfalloon aren't in my semantic map of what a beer bar/restaurant is in the way Yard House, Old Chicago, Flying Saucer, iTap, HopCat, the Foundry, and Bier Station are. That being said, I've only ever been to Granfalloon...once? and my Tomfooleries adventures are invariably for brunch, but still...

I'm sure Plaza rents would be eye-watering for every area brewery save Boulevard, and given that they have their own large hall now, I can't imagine them opening a taproom on the Plaza anytime soon. If Bread & Butter Concepts didn't already have two Plaza restaurants, they'd be a prime candidate for ripping off the taproom trend (possibly via partnering with one of the smaller local breweries). :-)

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by nomadcowatbk » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:02 am

smh wrote:
kcjak wrote:As the retail landscape continues to change to more online, it's going to be harder to fill empty stores when they close. I wonder if this will be more local shops, restaurants or entertainment offerings? Interested in hearing what others think should open on the Plaza in an era when retail storefronts are dying?

On a side note, I heard a rumor that Williams Sonoma was closing because Capital Grille (or its parent company) wanted the space when the lease was up. Anyone know if that's true?
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probably if they've made an offer

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by empires228 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:44 am

smh wrote:
kcjak wrote:As the retail landscape continues to change to more online, it's going to be harder to fill empty stores when they close. I wonder if this will be more local shops, restaurants or entertainment offerings? Interested in hearing what others think should open on the Plaza in an era when retail storefronts are dying?

On a side note, I heard a rumor that Williams Sonoma was closing because Capital Grille (or its parent company) wanted the space when the lease was up. Anyone know if that's true?
Red Lobster!? Olive Garden!?

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No! The way to make this post is by saying;

Redlobster? Olive Garden? Maybe Shopko?? Talbots? Williams Sonoma returning? Bloomingdales or Gordmans?? ;-)

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by smh » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:44 am

empires228 wrote:
smh wrote:
kcjak wrote:As the retail landscape continues to change to more online, it's going to be harder to fill empty stores when they close. I wonder if this will be more local shops, restaurants or entertainment offerings? Interested in hearing what others think should open on the Plaza in an era when retail storefronts are dying?

On a side note, I heard a rumor that Williams Sonoma was closing because Capital Grille (or its parent company) wanted the space when the lease was up. Anyone know if that's true?
Red Lobster!? Olive Garden!?

(RD4L????)
No! The way to make this post is by saying;

Redlobster? Olive Garden? Maybe Shopko?? Talbots? Williams Sonoma returning? Bloomingdales or Gordmans?? ;-)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by swid » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:53 am

Not enough typos or references to regional chains selling the exact same things one can readily buy here, but pretty good - that scores an 8.2/10 in my book. :-)

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by mgsports » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:35 pm

Gordmans closed. No Shopko or Bloomingdales in area yet same with like Meijer,Yonkers,Boston Store,Johnny Mac's,Sportsmen Wearhouse or so on.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:59 pm

swid wrote:Not enough typos or references to regional chains selling the exact same things one can readily buy here, but pretty good - that scores an 8.2/10 in my book. :-)
mgsports wrote:Gordmans closed. No Shopko or Bloomingdales in area yet same with like Meijer,Yonkers,Boston Store,Johnny Mac's,Sportsmen Wearhouse or so on.
Yep...that's the stuff.

Time to resurrect this:

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by flyingember » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:38 am

mgsports wrote:Gordmans closed.
Nope, only half

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by chaglang » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:40 pm

flyingember wrote:
mgsports wrote:Gordmans closed.
Nope, only half
Gord

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by smh » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:23 pm

flyingember wrote:
mgsports wrote:Gordmans closed.
Nope, only half
Unstoppable force meet immovable object.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by mgsports » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:44 pm

Yes but name will change.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

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