Weird Stuff Antiques sold building at 901 Tracy

[WinchesterMysteryHouse]

Unsure where/how this news is relevant to the board.
http://www.weirdstuffantiques.com/

The owner of this place sold the impressive structure at 901 Tracy. It was listed for 299K.
He was lamenting that it'll become 'offices,' when it contains a 2nd floor ballroom and loft apartment.

He's looking for half the space to house Weird Stuff again but mentioned 'half the space will cost as much as what he sold for,' considering he bought the Tracy building for much less eight years ago.

Had to edit and clean up my reporting a bit. Its second-hand information.

[shinatoo]

Looks like he wanted to sell the place as a ball room for weddings and such....right across the street from a junkyard. Furthermore, why is there a junkyard at 9th and Tracy. Don't we have any zoning in this town.

[kboish]

Looks like he wanted to sell the place as a ball room for weddings and such....right across the street from a junkyard. Furthermore, why is there a junkyard at 9th and Tracy. Don't we have any zoning in this town.

Mixed-use?

[WinchesterMysteryHouse]

Looks like he wanted to sell the place as a ball room for weddings and such....right across the street from a junkyard. Furthermore, why is there a junkyard at 9th and Tracy. Don't we have any zoning in this town.

Your opinion is not commensurate with contemporary attitudes, even mainstream attitudes about weddings & corporate events. Contemporary elegance includes a fair amount of urban grime- the polite term is 'patina.' Consider the Hobbs Building in the West Bottoms is downwind from some funky exhaust from the corner of James & Central and across the street is a scrapyard. There, people are more than happy paying thousands to rent Feasts of Fancy for their formals.

[chrizow]

Consider the Hobbs Building in the West Bottoms is downwind from some funky exhaust from the corner of James & Central and across the street is a scrapyard.

yeah, i was going to say, we got married at the Hobbs! not only is it surrounded by industrial grit, a train came through about 20 feet away during our vows and drowned us out completely. it was great.

[loftguy]

Consider the Hobbs Building in the West Bottoms is downwind from some funky exhaust from the corner of James & Central and across the street is a scrapyard.

yeah, i was going to say, we got married at the Hobbs! not only is it surrounded by industrial grit, a train came through about 20 feet away during our vows and drowned us out completely. it was great.

If no one hears the vows, do they count?

[flyingember]

[quote="loftguy"
If no one hears the vows, do they count?[/quote]

absolutely they can

vows are something the couple make to each other

witnesses only need to believe they got wed based on cultural beliefs. that doesn't necessarily mean hearing what was said, it could be seeing what was done. this is going to vary widely obviously

[taxi]

[quote="loftguy"
If no one hears the vows, do they count?

"absolutely they can

vows are something the couple make to each other

witnesses only need to believe they got wed based on cultural beliefs. that doesn't necessarily mean hearing what was said, it could be seeing what was done. this is going to vary widely obviously[/quote]"


Not so, they have to be audible to be considered legal, at least through the eyes of the courts. And not only that, if there is any doubt, the marriage can be nullified. Such was the case with Jules Vernon, a famous ventriloquist who never moved his lips during the ceremony. He later turned blind and his wife got fed up with having to take care of him, including running his Vaudeville performances without any credit, and had the marriage nullified on the basis that no one witnessed him actually saying "I do". Heartbroken and dead broke, he was killed dead by a taxi in the '30's.

[loftguy]

[quote="loftguy"
If no one hears the vows, do they count?

"absolutely they can

vows are something the couple make to each other

witnesses only need to believe they got wed based on cultural beliefs. that doesn't necessarily mean hearing what was said, it could be seeing what was done. this is going to vary widely obviously

"


Not so, they have to be audible to be considered legal, at least through the eyes of the courts. And not only that, if there is any doubt, the marriage can be nullified. Such was the case with Jules Vernon, a famous ventriloquist who never moved his lips during the ceremony. He later turned blind and his wife got fed up with having to take care of him, including running his Vaudeville performances without any credit, and had the marriage nullified on the basis that no one witnessed him actually saying "I do". Heartbroken and dead broke, he was killed dead by a taxi in the '30's.[/quote]

Are you in Colorado, or Washington....?

[Demosthenes]

Hahahaha! Poor Jules... RIP

[DaveKCMO]

this thread is rapidly approaching mgsports territory (with marginally better grammar).

[FangKC]

Much of that neighborhood needs to be rezoned for mixed office/retail/residential development. It's too close to downtown to continue to be mostly industrial. There is a lot to work with since a lot of the blocks can be redone from the ground up to include underground and center block parking.

I saw in the Business Journal that MU is pulling out of the Innovation Park in Blue Springs. Some leader needs to put together a consortium to redevelop this neighborhood into an innovation center and try and draw MU/Kansas City University/Rockhurst into the mix.

If two streetcar lines (Independence Avenue and 12th Street) ran through this neighborhood, it would be a prime one to redevelop.

http://tinyurl.com/lws2e38

[flyingember]

The paseo industrial area is a weird neighborhood.

It has some key items like the greyhound terminal, some nice respectful industries and such. But it doesn't lend confidence. Just one new conversion project, even if it's low income housing, would do wonders for it.

this neighborhood is one of the few near downtown I don't feel safe in.

I do know there's a big plan to work on this part of town. It would be a good focus for kc coupled with the streetcar to be the next place to bring residential to and free up more lots downtown for office tower projects

[Demosthenes]

It's amazing how different this neighborhood used to be. Probably the neighborhood that has made the most dramatic changes over the years. Based on just how dense of a mixed use neighborhood it used to be, I think it only fitting we try and change it back. There are still amazing little pieces of it remaining from the golden days, like the three houses on eighth at Troost and the houses and apartments on Admiral east of Forest. Not to mention the amazing fire station. The preservation of these old structures is super important if we go ahead and change the zoning on this area. They could be the difference between a diverse neighborhood and a modern, sterile urban renewal project.

As the city grows I think this could be some of the most in-demand real estate. Of course it could be awhile. I'm still shocked that the east village hasn't even really started yet. People seem very hesitant to move eastward in this city. But it definitely has a lot of potential. I wonder if changing the zoning in this neighborhood and creating a long-term plan for it would help get the east village going?

[Eon Blue]

The building stock along the west side of Paseo in that area is amazing, as well as some of the buildings along Ninth Street. We do a lot of our shopping at that Aldi, so we frequently lament the state of the neighborhood when it's soooo close to downtown and clearly has soooo much potential. I think a few things need to happen, including removal of the questionable hotels at Admiral and redevelopment of some of the low-income housing in the area--and of course, a critical mass in the East Village.

[loftguy]

Let's be honest herre.

Paseo West is viewed in power circles as a buffer zone, protecting downtown from the unwashed to the east.

[voltopt]

A buffer zone and a reliable low density industrial tax base, which to city coffers is preferable to the original working class housing that existed there pre-1960. This same mentality gives us the massive KCATA warehouses on 18th street, the budweiser distributor on 18th, past Woodland, and the smattering of industrial warehouse uses around 27th and Gillham.

[FangKC]

Yes, it may be viewed that way now. However, if the City hopes to dramatically begin to increase population and worker density near downtown, this neighborhood will have to be looked at for redevelopment.

If city leaders hope to attract large employers near downtown that are accessible to mass transit, there are few options inside the loop. Paseo West has larger parcels for redevelopment of entire blocks at one time to allow for garages to be included. This could be done without the need to demolish historic structures that citizens want to preserve. It would also be much easier and less-costly to assemble parcels.

The Paseo Gateway Plan is already completed, and includes plans to remove the Chouteau Courts housing project, and reintroduce mixed-income and mixed use projects to the area. Chouteau Courts won't be replaced onsite. The existing housing will be scattered, and not concentrated. The current site will be repurposed for institutional, retail, and other uses.

The redevelopment plan proposes replacing the current motels along Paseo near Independence Avenue with retail uses.

The long-term focus is to remove concentrated low-income housing projects in the area altogether.

That is a start. The expansion of Kansas City University will also contribute. Most people don't realize that Kansas City University trains more physicians than UMKC and KU.

[flyingember]

The expansion of Kansas City University will also contribute. Most people don't realize that Kansas City University trains more physicians than UMKC and KU.

FYI, your names are mixed up. Kansas City University was the old name for UMKC.

KCUMB has never used that name

[pash]

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