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Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:00 pm
by chrizow
moderne wrote:Vegan restaurant and a Thai cafe to go in the 3100 block of Gillham.


cool! which spaces? The Bitterman bldg that Butch Rigby bought? Or the vacant storefronts on 31st just W of Gillham (berbiglia and the pad sites?)

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:04 pm
by moderne
One in the Bitterman bldng, and one in the building to the north of that. Most people don't realize that street is Gillham Rd and the parallel street to the west is Gillham Plaza.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:05 pm
by moderne
And a couple more vintage shops are coming to that area in addition to Urban Mining.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:47 pm
by JBmidtown
wahoowa wrote:nice! we walked by fud on 17th street this weekend and it's boarded up. renovation or moving?


Moving probably/hopefully. I know the landlady has been trying to evict her for awhile. Btw not sure if it’s obvious but I have a deep and eternal hate for Heidi Belle.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:42 pm
by scooterj
moderne wrote:One in the Bitterman bldng, and one in the building to the north of that. Most people don't realize that street is Gillham Rd and the parallel street to the west is Gillham Plaza.



Why is that, anyway? Why can't Cherry just be Cherry for those 3 blocks? Maybe it made sense on some really old map but it makes no sense at all on the current grid.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:37 pm
by voltopt
Gilham Road curves to the east at 34th Street, then heads north in an alignment on Cherry for three blocks, to 31st, before heading back west in front of El Torreon. Historically, it continued north to 25th Street and then curved into Pershing. When the flatter alignment was established on Locust from 33rd to 25th, the section north of 31st was shifted to the new alignment. Gilham Plaza remained, however, south of 31st.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:18 pm
by AlbertHammond
voltopt wrote:Gilham Road curves to the east at 34th Street, then heads north in an alignment on Cherry for three blocks, to 31st, before heading back west in front of El Torreon. Historically, it continued north to 25th Street and then curved into Pershing. When the flatter alignment was established on Locust from 33rd to 25th, the section north of 31st was shifted to the new alignment. Gilham Plaza remained, however, south of 31st.


This 1925 map shows the "new" Gilham under construction while the old Gilham is still in use.

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Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:26 pm
by chaglang
AlbertHammond wrote:
voltopt wrote:Gilham Road curves to the east at 34th Street, then heads north in an alignment on Cherry for three blocks, to 31st, before heading back west in front of El Torreon. Historically, it continued north to 25th Street and then curved into Pershing. When the flatter alignment was established on Locust from 33rd to 25th, the section north of 31st was shifted to the new alignment. Gilham Plaza remained, however, south of 31st.


This 1925 map shows the "new" Gilham under construction while the old Gilham is still in use.

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Get back to work, you two.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:19 pm
by KCtoBrooklyn
It looks like there is a new sign up from the leasing company on the 31 Levy/Velvet Freeze building. I'm not sure if they are waiting to sign retail tenants before ground breaking, but it does look like this project is still in the works and not dead as has been suggested.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:06 pm
by moderne
Sign not new.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:36 pm
by KCtoBrooklyn
moderne wrote:Sign not new.


I know there were signs up in the past, but I believe the one up right now on the west side is a new one.

Edit: Yep, just looked at the old sign on Google streetview from March 2017 and the one I saw today was different (and I think a very recent addition). I remember the new one had Epoch mentioned on it somewhere, and I think it was larger and a different material (unless I'm remembering it wrong and going crazy).

Also, the project is still showing up on the leasing company's website and Epoch's website (although I know that may not mean anything).

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:23 am
by moderne
I walk around this corner almost every day. The sign on the west side has been there for ages.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:27 am
by moderne
I have talked often to business owners in the area who all say the project is a no go because of the parking issue. It may come back without the new building, just a renovation and penthouse on the old with surface parking to the north, much like what was done with the Battery Lofts. Not ideal, but better than the current eyesore.

Re: Martini Corner near 31st/Gilham

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:16 pm
by KCtoBrooklyn
Old sign from Google Streetview on March of this year:
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New Sign:
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I pass by this building on a regular basis and I'm pretty sure this sign has been put up within the past week. It could be that they are starting with the renovation/penthouse of the existing structure.

I'm not sure how new this is, but I just noticed a for sale sign on the vacant lot between Velvet Freeze and what is now the tattoo shop. It has a link to this horrendous website, which seems to indicate that lot, plus much of the west side of Cherry north of 31st are now for sale: http://www.mifiber.com/