Midtown Plaza Area Plan

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby AlbertHammond » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:35 am

chaglang wrote:If you're genuinely curious about this - as opposed to just complaining here about it every couple of months - the KCMO Planning and Development phone number is 816-513-1500. Last I heard, they're still working on the plan but are criminally understaffed.

No....its dead on the vine. Someone might resurrect it, but by then it will be a raisin. ...just hoping others here raise a little hell.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby chaglang » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:46 am

Are you saying that because you called them and they said that or because you have some inside knowledge? Believe they're statutorily required to update area plans every 10 years. So it probably can't just go away.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby brewcrew1000 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:10 pm

I got a postcard in the mail from KC, someone wants to build townhomes on the empty lots at 34th and Baltimore/Wyandotte.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby AlbertHammond » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:36 pm

chaglang wrote:Are you saying that because you called them and they said that or because you have some inside knowledge? Believe they're statutorily required to update area plans every 10 years. So it probably can't just go away.

When was the Westport plan last updated? 1998
Oak Park Area Pan? 1977
Troostwood? 1999
South Volker? 1989
South Central? 1999

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby chaglang » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:04 pm

Believe those were all rolled into the MPAP. Guessing the statutory requirement to update them every 10 years happened at the same time.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby schugg » Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:12 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:I got a postcard in the mail from KC, someone wants to build townhomes on the empty lots at 34th and Baltimore/Wyandotte.

I live on 34th & Wyandotte & this sounds great! Anything new on this?

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby brewcrew1000 » Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:54 pm

schugg wrote:
brewcrew1000 wrote:I got a postcard in the mail from KC, someone wants to build townhomes on the empty lots at 34th and Baltimore/Wyandotte.

I live on 34th & Wyandotte & this sounds great! Anything new on this?


Marty, the old hp president is upset with the design, it looked pretty suburban so he wants them to update the design. These will be market rate townhomes for sale. Its supposed to be a very green design

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby beautyfromashes » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:35 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:
Marty, the old hp president is upset with the design, it looked pretty suburban so he wants them to update the design. These will be market rate townhomes for sale. Its supposed to be a very green design


What does it look like? Is it that bad, or just the neighborhood not wanting townhouses?

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby brewcrew1000 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:56 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:
brewcrew1000 wrote:
Marty, the old hp president is upset with the design, it looked pretty suburban so he wants them to update the design. These will be market rate townhomes for sale. Its supposed to be a very green design


What does it look like? Is it that bad, or just the neighborhood not wanting townhouses?



This is the company doing the townhomes http://www.sunsourcehomes.net/, I think everyone is really for this project, some of the concerns were that there were too many curbcuts in the project, also the garages were a promient feature in the design, similar to what you would see in subdivision in the suburbs. They agreed to go back to the drawing board so we hope to see something new in a couple weeks

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby FangKC » Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:07 pm

Are they also building on the vacant parcels adjacent facing Baltimore? That appears to be a L-shaped set of vacant parcels.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby brewcrew1000 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:27 pm

Yeap it's that entire section of Baltimore and 34th

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby FangKC » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:01 pm

Seems like they could arrange the townhouses in a manner where the garages are in the back accessed via a single driveway from 34th Street, and not have any garage doors facing the street.

It might require a redesign of the townhouses, or a selection of another existing townhouse design with garages in the back. The townhouses across the street have the garages in the back.

If the garage doors are in the front, there are ways to make them look more attractive than standard white garage doors. There are all kinds of cool designs these days.One can also set back the garages in between the townhouses to hide them a bit. However, the real problem is having all those asphalt driveways crossing the sidewalk, and cutouts on the curbs. Leaves little or no room for street parking.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby beautyfromashes » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:16 am

I believe that Baltimore is one way there, so there won't be any street parking lost. I agree, garages should ideally be in the back accessed by an 'alley' or between the structures. Keep the structures historic looking or modern. No stucco.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby FangKC » Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:43 pm

Has anyone seen the renderings for these townhouses, or know what architecture firm is doing them?

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby Midtownkid » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:21 pm

Those look pretty great to me. Hope their development will further the renovation and general clean up of the area.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby Demosthenes » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:49 pm

Eh I find them pretty meh... Is there not any way to put all the parking in back.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby zonk » Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:20 pm

Midtownkid wrote:Those look pretty great to me. Hope their development will further the renovation and general clean up of the area.


Agree! A good project for the neighborhood.

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Re: Midtown Plaza Area Plan

Postby chingon » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:34 pm

"design sucks/not tall enough/looks like 119th and black bob/cheap materials/needs ground floor retail"


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