Troost developments

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Re: Troost developments

Post by FangKC » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:36 am

chaglang wrote:The people concerned about development live in CHP and Janssen, so if retailers never return it doesn't change anything for them. They will continue to drive everywhere for basics. Their warped sense of urban aesthetics trumps economics.
People interested in opposing them should read this:

https://grist.org/article/san-francisco ... ent-fight/
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All of this makes Wiener perhaps the most powerful voice in the YIMBY — yes, in my backyard! — movement. The YIMBYs are mostly millennials who, angered by the urban housing shortage, have begun demanding a building boom to put roofs over heads, get people out of cars, drive down rents, and stop sprawl.

But the idea that profit-driven builders could provide equitable, environmentally friendly housing sounds like a joke to much of San Francisco’s progressive establishment. The arguments against new, dense development are familiar: homeowners talk about the “character of their neighborhoods,” renters fear losing rent-controlled units. For decades, developers have been the bad guys. Now they’ve got some degree of public support on their side.

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Re: Troost developments

Post by chaglang » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:32 pm

Look for some site prep happening at Armour next month.

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Re: Troost developments

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Signage for a new African restaurant up next to Urban Cafe

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Re: Troost developments

Post by flyingember » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:36 pm

yeliab wrote:Signage for a new African restaurant up next to Urban Cafe
Wonder which African cuisine?

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Re: Troost developments

Post by FangKC » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:53 pm

yeliab wrote:Signage for a new African restaurant up next to Urban Cafe
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Re: Troost developments

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E. 40th and Troost

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Re: Troost developments

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:23 pm

flyingember wrote:
yeliab wrote:Signage for a new African restaurant up next to Urban Cafe
Wonder which African cuisine?
Here is their website, which includes a menu:

https://www.fanniescuisine.com/

In other news, the Abnos owned Apollo Theater at 3229 Troost is currently up for sale for $415,000.

Current facade:
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Historic photo:
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Rendering:
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I wonder how much, if any, of the original details are behind the current facade and if it could be restored or would need to be rebuilt. The rendering looks like new construction.

Listing:
http://www.loopnet.com/for-sale/?bb=wyv_i21hlKh_hu6C

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Re: Troost developments

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:37 pm

The framing on Scholars Row has started going vertical. Stairwells (and elevator shafts?) are completed.
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Progress on the Happy Apple Cafe spot just to the south. I believe all of the retail spots on this side of the block are owned by UC-B and are expected to be rehabbed:
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And across the street at the former Troostwood garage, a couple retail spots are complete, with more under construction:

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Re: Troost developments

Post by TheLastGentleman » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:40 pm

KCtoBrooklyn wrote:I wonder how much, if any, of the original details are behind the current facade and if it could be restored or would need to be rebuilt. The rendering looks like new construction.
It's weird they wouldn't try to match the original design closer. Missed opportunity

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Re: Troost developments

Post by chaglang » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:19 am

TheLastGentleman wrote:
KCtoBrooklyn wrote:I wonder how much, if any, of the original details are behind the current facade and if it could be restored or would need to be rebuilt. The rendering looks like new construction.
It's weird they wouldn't try to match the original design closer. Missed opportunity
It's the Abnos family, so any renovation will have a lot of random pieces of scrap metal stuck on the facade and the project will never actually be completed.

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Re: Troost developments

Post by chaglang » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:18 pm

BikeWalkKC is moving into the Bakery Lofts this summer.

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Re: Troost developments

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:14 pm

Good for Troost. It seems like they hadn't been in their current space that long. I guess it wasn't too long of a lease.

I haven't been in the space, so I'm not sure how well suited it would be for other uses (or if there would be possible permit issues), but I always thought that would be a great spot for a neighborhood bar/restaurant or retail.

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Re: Troost developments

Post by chaglang » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:23 am

Blip is likely opening there this summer and there are plans for a restaurant/bar of some kind IIRC.

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Re: Troost developments

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:54 am

I assume you are referring to Bakery Lofts for Blip? My post was unclear, but I was actually referring to BikeWalkKC's current office space as what I thought would make a nice neighborhood bar spot. I think there is potential for a nice little node in some of the underutilized commercial spaces ranging from BikeWalkKC to Sidestreet to the new cafe in the works on 34th.

Blip would be a nice addition to Bakery Lofts. The other tenant that has long been discussed for that building is a brewpub out of Colorado. Any idea if that could actually be happening?

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Re: Troost developments

Post by chaglang » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:21 am

Oh, I understand. I don't know what the plans are for the BikeWalk offices, but there are going to be several different businesses on the ground floor of the Bakery Loft. Blip looks like it will be one of those businesses. That, along with Ruby Jean's, provide a nice node at 30th and gives the 2 blocks from Linwood to 30th real potential. I've heard that same brewpub rumor but nothing definite yet. If/when it happens I will hear about it when they apply with Regulated Industries for the license.

Where at 34th is a cafe going in?

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Re: Troost developments

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:12 pm

Across from Acadmie Lafayette. I did post about it a while back in this thread (looks like the image links have died):
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=18275&p=569548&hilit=34th#p569548

Work has been progressing slowly, but steadily on the building. They are saying Fall of 2018 opening.

The people involved in this seem to just be doing it as a side project and I don't believe they have any experience opening a similar business. For those reasons, I'm concerned there will be obstacles and they may have difficulty pulling it together. I do hope it happens and at least that building is getting renovated.

They have a Facebook page, but there haven't been any new posts for quite a while:

https://m.facebook.com/HydeParkCoffeeShop/

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Re: Troost developments

Post by rxlexi » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:14 pm

I appreciate all of these Troost and North Hyde Park updates. Would love to see the little node along 33rd/Gillham (Sidestreet Bar etc.) over to the current Bike/Walk KC office shift to retail use and form a small neighborhood center.

RE: MAC development at Armour and Troost: as these buildings will be completely new construction (unless the existing grocery is saved), is there any chance we'll get something interesting architecturally?

Like any good urbanist, I am quite jealous of the Antheus/MAC developed, Studio Gang designed, One Hundred tower going up in CWE STL. It's a beautiful, signature structure, albeit located in a different universe economically (CWE vs. Troost). Same team will be developing these 4 lots concurrently. I know the program is very different, but the uses will be similar, and I would love to see some design ambition in the rebuilding of this very important intersection. Or frankly anywhere else in the city, rather than another mediocre semi-suburban turd.

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Re: Troost developments

Post by chaglang » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:43 pm

rxlexi wrote: RE: MAC development at Armour and Troost: as these buildings will be completely new construction (unless the existing grocery is saved), is there any chance we'll get something interesting architecturally?
All new construction.
rxlexi wrote:Like any good urbanist, I am quite jealous of the Antheus/MAC developed, Studio Gang designed, One Hundred tower going up in CWE STL. It's a beautiful, signature structure, albeit located in a different universe economically (CWE vs. Troost). Same team will be developing these 4 lots concurrently. I know the program is very different, but the uses will be similar, and I would love to see some design ambition in the rebuilding of this very important intersection. Or frankly anywhere else in the city, rather than another mediocre semi-suburban turd.
The project will be by different local architects (1 per building is my understanding), so it's going to depend on who gets which building. The Studio Gang design is great but as you mention, CWE is a high-dollar part of STL. Right now I'd say that the design preferences of Central Hyde Parkers will be a bigger obstacle to getting something ambitious than the budget or the imagination of the architects.

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Re: Troost developments

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:26 pm

chaglang wrote:Right now I'd say that the design preferences of Central Hyde Parkers will be a bigger obstacle to getting something ambitious than the budget or the imagination of the architects.
Yeah. I think there will be a contingent pushing for "old-timey" architecture. That usually doesn't turn out well without spending a premium on materials, which won't be feasible for this project.

Some plans have just shown up in the KCMO Development tracker, but no renderings. The plans were done by Helix, so it might be a good guess that they could be designing one of the buildings. All 4 buildings are proposed to be 10 floors.

Here are the details:

3438 Troost - 6,400 sq ft commercial, 80 units, 27 parking spaces
1108 E Armour - 5,800 sq ft commercial, 64 units, 24 parking spaces
3501 Troost - 5,200 sq ft commercial, 60 units, 19 parking spaces
3500 Troost - 10,500 sq ft commercial, 140 units, 44 parking spaces

and 520 E Armour (the lot across from the Newbern) - 8 floors, 110 units, 75 parking spaces.

Construction on the first bulding, 3500 Troost is proposed to begin on 10/20/18. The start of each subsequent new building will be staggered a couple months until 8/20/19 when 520 E Armour starts.

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Re: Troost developments

Post by missingkc » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:47 pm

When the mid-rise on the southwest corner was demolished I never imagined that it would be replaced and more.

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