Nelson Atkins - Moving Forward

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No expansion of Chinese galleries, just reinstallation of the 2 galleries to the east of the temple room. The Shang bronzes are breathtaking. Surprised the commies don't demand repatriation.
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That what I meant. In any case, it was driving me up the wall waiting to reopen that space up. Looking forward to checking it out.
And if the Chinese come a-knocking for repatriation, I hope that it is mentioned that we take care of their stuff better than they do their own.

Also am wishing for them to refurbish and reopen the third-floor galleries. Hopefully, they put some of the Mesoamerican and Oceanic stuff they have back on display (it was explained that they reason they haven't so far is that they don't have a curator). The one realm the Museum could definitely expand into as well is the Islamic arts and South/SE Asian art that is not stonework; there already seemed to be interest in purchasing a few Indian (Mughal likely) paintings.
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Block building gets high ranking from a travel magazine
The Bloch building at the Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art is ranked number 16 as one of the most beautiful buildings in the world. The ranking was reveled in the March issue of Travel and Leisure magazine in the list of the top 24 most beautiful buildings in the world.
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Here is the link to the World's Most Beautiful Buildings:

http://www.travelandleisure.com/article ... ildings/11

The Bloch Building also made Travel and Leisure's list of the World's Top New Buildings:

http://www.travelandleisure.com/article ... ildings/17
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Story about sun pavilion exhibit on Nelson-Atkins lawn.

http://www.kmbc.com/news/30876726/detail.html
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Museum design adds pace and mimicks the Nelson expansion

http://www.archdaily.com/266833/stodel- ... chumacher/
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People are getting naked with the Shuttlecocks. I guess this is a problem?

Hey, that nude at the Nelson just ran off!

Perhaps the first episode — confirmed by museum folk, at least — was around 1996, not so long after the four white-and-orange sculptures were set up by artists Claes Oldenburg and Coosje Van Bruggen.

“It happened right outside my office,” recalled Marc Wilson, who retired in 2010 as museum director. “Only once that I know of. It seemed to be a professional photo shoot.”

Wilson looked down from his office window to see an attractive model join the photographer near the sculpture on the south terrace.

“She stands in front of the shuttlecock and proceeds to discard her T-shirt, then her shorts and then her flip flops. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I called to my secretary that she’d better come see this, and she said, ‘Oh, my goodness, she’s buck naked.’”

Wilson is still puzzled. “I’ve never seen the pictures posted anywhere. I’m curious. What was the purpose?”
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The Nelson lawn used to be fairly lewd afterhours.
Security in the 'command center,' the surveillance room, were pretty live-and-let-live about it, 'til the Shuttlecocks arrived.
Pitch gave it one of their annual awards, highlighting the problem, prompting the no-parking pretty much any place that makes for nighttime convenience.
If this is a developing thing, kudos to some freakiness at the museum. High five to the eventual arrested martyr.
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The Star reports a plan to expand the Nelson-Atkins and create a cultural district in the neighborhood around it.

Proposed changes include demolishing the homes to the north of the Nelson-Atkins, expanding the sculpture park east-ward, rerouting Rockhill through part of the Rockhill Tennis Club property to create additional space for parking and structures, and adding a hotel and spa, more office, storage and gallery spaces.

http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment ... 36943.html
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have they learned nothing from the UMKC expansion fiasco of the 90s? there are a dozen hotels -- including some of the city's top-rated -- less than a mile away!

this just goes to show you how good intentions (beth gottstein's spot zoning of the tennis club) can go awry (rerouting rockhill road just to get around the restriction).

why not carve off part of theis park for an expansion? i think voters would approve that versus a bunch of demolition and neighborhood encroachment.
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I see no need to be tearing down those houses to the north.
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Shirley Helzberg is now the Chair of the Board for the Nelson- don't be surprised to get a parking garage in place of those razed houses.
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Yeah I am having a hard time understanding this proposal as well.

I think they should keep the road where it is.

Try harder to reuse the old Rockhill CC for what they are proposing without tearing down any houses!!

Ped Bridge over Brush Creek sounds great, but one over Main? That confuses me! Would that be like a sky-walk or a ped bridge in Las Vegas?? I hope neither!
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Tearing down houses is a horrible idea. Why do we want to keep destroying neighborhoods and walkability. No ped bridges either on Cleaver. Make it a major crosswalk like what they have between crown center and the fountian plaza, hell put in crossing gates if you have to, but ped bridges rarely work well for everyone and always wind up being super creapy.
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shinatoo wrote:Tearing down houses is a horrible idea. Why do we want to keep destroying neighborhoods and walkability. No ped bridges either on Cleaver. Make it a major crosswalk like what they have between crown center and the fountian plaza, hell put in crossing gates if you have to, but ped bridges rarely work well for everyone and always wind up being super creapy.
crossing from Theis Park to the Nelson is horrible. anything that can be done would be an improvement.

the inside lane EB becomes left turn only at Rockhill, drop the lane at Oak and extend the median as a grassy pedestrian island with flowers and such
the outside WB lane becomes right turn only at Oak and doesn't exist at Rockhill. Drop the lane and extend the curb out.

then add 1-3 mid block cuts with full time pedestrian access like the mid-block crossing in P&L

doing both would decrease the amount of lane changing in that segment increasing auto safety. it's probably the single easiest block on a major artery for KC that can get a road diet
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"Landscape Urbanism" at its best (or worst).
http://bettercities.net/article/street- ... nism-14855

A few ideas in this proposal might have meat, but most of this is pure pipe dream.
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The Nelson sits on one of the largest parcels of land in Midtown/Plaza, and yet they feel they need to tear down houses on adjacent parcels, and reroute streets?

They just finished building an expansion a few years ago, and didn't anticipate these additional space needs then, and plan for them?

I don't see any reason they can't expand and build on their present parcel.

Why do they need a hotel and spa?

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I see a couple of places they could build and preserve the sight-lines for the old facade. The building I've placed on the left, on the southeast corner of the parcel, could be connected to the Steven Holl addition, and probably have a parking garage placed underground with access from Rockhill Road. Another smaller building could be constructed just east of Oak, and be mostly hidden in the tree grove.
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I like the idea of pedestrian bridges over both Cleaver II and Main - crossing Main sucks big time. The ped bridge in Millennium Park in Chicago is great - something like that would provide great interaction between the museum and Theis Park/Kaufman Gardens and the Plaza.

What I don't understand is why the Kemper Museum was left out - is there bad blood between the Nelson and Kemper?
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it seems to me that they could move their storage off site. instead of rerouting rockhill, put their offices were the tennis club is and expand the museum into the current office space. that seems way simpler and cheaper

there's also the opposite sculpture park option of expanding into Southmoreland Park. put in a substantial outdoor kids artist designed playground to give families a place for kids to go
or partner with the art institute and have a partnership on the grounds. a walking tour where they feature student exhibits while the nelson brings sculpture and outside friendly 2d pieces throughout the campus
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If the Nelson wanted better connection to UMKC and The Plaza, they should have purchased the land where the suburban apartment village is on Main several years back. In fact, if you're going to tear housing down, tear that area down. It's only probably 15 years old and has no architectural value.
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