Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Postby FangKC » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:43 pm

The City needs to be proactive in educating residents about problems their protests against higher density create for the City's well-being.

* The City south of the river has become depopulated. There are numerous vacant lots that provide little revenue to the City's tax base. Fewer people live in existing houses. Around 40 percent of single family houses only have one or two resident(s) living in them where in past decades there might have been 3-6 people. Fewer people buying fewer things affects sales taxes.

* As they can see by the number of empty retail buildings, this depopulation has ramifications for the City. There are less tax collections per square mile than in decades past. At the same time, the City hears constant complaints about providing services and maintenance. However, it has become difficult to keep up because fewer people pay into the neighborhood tax base. There are not enough police officers to address crime and quality of life issues. The City has budgetary constraints.

*Yet, despite this depopulation, the City must still provide the same infrastructure and basic services.

Then the council members need to ask the protesting residents if they would prefer more residents sharing the tax burden, or if instead they prefer paying higher taxes?

There is a tipping point for older cities where the cost to provide basic services becomes too high and there aren't enough residents to pay for it (Detroit and Flint, Michigan; Newark and Camden, New Jersey; and Gary, Indiana).

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Postby beautyfromashes » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:38 pm

^Absolutely this!!! Part of the problem too was built by the government and society pushing the idea that the American dream was everyone owning a single family home with a yard and , even now, the idea that DTs are not for families/kids. That idea has even been pushed on this forum. The city should market that DT is a viable option for families in order to boost density. After all, families lived there for many decades before the 1980s.

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Postby KCMOJoe89 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:35 pm

Drove by the BP gas station at Armour and Troost on NYE. Looked like it has gone dark and pumps removed. The businesses on the northeast corner were dark as well but could've been related to the holiday.

Any info on the condemnation process and if we are getting closer to development?

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Postby KCtoBrooklyn » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:56 pm

The buildings on the NE corner have been vacated for a little while now. The plan had been for MAC to have control of the properties by the beginning of the year, and it looks like that has happened (sans the Abnos owned hotel building, which they are moving ahead without).

They said they would go ahead and start demo/environmental remediation while they work on finalizing plans and getting approval/incentives together (I really hope they hold off on demoing the old market building for now). It sounds like middle of the year might be best case scenario for ground breaking.

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Postby chaglang » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:18 pm

KCtoBrooklyn wrote:(sans the Abnos owned hotel building, which they are moving ahead without)

It's not clear what is going to happen with that building now. The MAC project seemed like it was it's most realistic shot at redevelopment.

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Postby JBmidtown » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:35 pm

I’m not a fan of the Abnos family.

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Postby KCtoBrooklyn » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:44 pm

chaglang wrote:It's not clear what is going to happen with that building now. The MAC project seemed like it was it's most realistic shot at redevelopment.


You might have better details since you seem to have a lot of info on this project, but I heard some ridiculous numbers about Abnos' demands for the buildings. I don't recall the exact figures, but it was something like he paid $50k for the building just a few years ago and wants $3M for it. I have no idea how much MAC was willing to pay.

I might have told this story already, but I was at a garage sale maybe a year and a half ago and someone was selling these architectural salvage items - mostly big plasterwork pieces. He said they came from that hotel building. Oliver Abnos was the landlord for his business and I guess he let him go in the building and take down whatever.

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Postby chaglang » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:49 pm

He got it for either $5k or $15k when it was on the Dangerous Buildings list. I don't know the exact figure he was asking for but it was several times the court's appraisal. I don't know if Abnos's building is redevelopable. There are probably close to 125 possible units in there. MAC has all the parking on those corners and they're going pretty low on the counts. So there wouldn't be extra for this building to use.


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