Westport

Discuss items in the urban core outside of Downtown as described above. Everything in the core including the east side (18th & Vine area), Plaza, Westport, Brookside, Valentine, Waldo, 39th street, & the entire midtown area.
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Re: Westport

Post by chrizow » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:21 pm

I thought 303 was just expanding into Ragazza's old space?

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Re: Westport

Post by bryan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:24 pm

WinchesterMysteryHouse wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:06 am
FedEx is moving its Plaza center into a Westport location. Don’t know where or why however it is planned to open in May.
I was at the plaza FedEx location yesterday and mentioned I'd heard they were moving to Westport. The employee claimed they weren't allowed to discuss it. I pushed further, asking if they couldn't discuss the location and they replied, "Well, there's an empty building where Freebirds used to be..."

Sounds like FedEx is moving to 554 Westport Road.

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Re: Westport

Post by kcjak » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:30 pm

bryan wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:24 pm
WinchesterMysteryHouse wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:06 am
FedEx is moving its Plaza center into a Westport location. Don’t know where or why however it is planned to open in May.
I was at the plaza FedEx location yesterday and mentioned I'd heard they were moving to Westport. The employee claimed they weren't allowed to discuss it. I pushed further, asking if they couldn't discuss the location and they replied, "Well, there's an empty building where Freebirds used to be..."

Sounds like FedEx is moving to 554 Westport Road.
That seems like a huge building for them, but maybe they need it. On a side not, Pie Five on the north end of that strip mall has closed and looks like the space is being gutted for a replacement.

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Re: Westport

Post by brewcrew1000 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:54 pm

Freebirds and Pie Five both sucked and they both had terrible workers - I think the Single Serving Pizza in 5 minutes Boom is kind of settling down. I know that pizza place by KU Med called Topp'd (Similar to Pie Five) shut down a few months ago. Spin Pizza seems to be the most successful of any in this metro.

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Re: Westport

Post by lock+load » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:50 pm

Pie Five being replaced with a Dominos per Business Journal

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... oebel.html

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Re: Westport

Post by brewcrew1000 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:22 pm

lock+load wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:50 pm
Pie Five being replaced with a Dominos per Business Journal

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... oebel.html
Wonder if the location on 39th will just close now

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Re: Westport

Post by johnmatrix » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:17 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:22 pm
lock+load wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:50 pm
Pie Five being replaced with a Dominos per Business Journal

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... oebel.html
Wonder if the location on 39th will just close now
I'd imagine so. Its pretty uncomfortable having to get your pizza through a bullet proof glass window.

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Re: Westport

Post by WSPanic » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:29 pm

johnmatrix wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:17 pm
brewcrew1000 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:22 pm
lock+load wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:50 pm
Pie Five being replaced with a Dominos per Business Journal

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... oebel.html
Wonder if the location on 39th will just close now
I'd imagine so. Its pretty uncomfortable having to get your pizza through a bullet proof glass window.
Why? Are you scared of glass?

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Re: Westport

Post by kcjak » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:41 pm

Actually, the entire stretch of 39th from Broadway all the way to Warwick is pretty shitty. Regarding the Westport portion, with 39th on the north and Broadway on the west, when is redevelopment going to hit that SE corner of the intersection? That raggedy strip of shops and 'spa' needs to go.

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Re: Westport

Post by WSPanic » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:46 pm

That's fine, but let's not act like "johnnymatrix" really gets his pizza there.

I lived in the Santa Maria (next door to the Alcazar) for a year when I was a bit younger. I know what that stretch is about.

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Re: Westport

Post by chrizow » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:34 pm

not sure if it's still the same but i always thought of 39th as KCMO's "tenderloin." despite being immediately adjacent to some fine or fun areas, it's like gentrification-proof. it wasn't that long ago that people would see public defecation in broad daylight, needles all over the ground, gunpoint robberies while getting the mail, crazy ass shit happening all the time.

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Re: Westport

Post by wahoowa » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:44 pm

i like it. how about the "burnt end"

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Re: Westport

Post by nickyrosstheboss » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:35 am

kcjak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:41 pm
Actually, the entire stretch of 39th from Broadway all the way to Warwick is pretty shitty. Regarding the Westport portion, with 39th on the north and Broadway on the west, when is redevelopment going to hit that SE corner of the intersection? That raggedy strip of shops and 'spa' needs to go.
I say this everytime i'm in the area.

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Re: Westport

Post by flyingember » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 am

kcjak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:41 pm
That raggedy strip of shops and 'spa' needs to go.
Does it?

Capitalism says that as long as owner of the strip of shops stops is making money off it greater than the return on selling it then it should stick around.

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Re: Westport

Post by WSPanic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:56 am

The Alcazar is the biggest issue. Too bad there isn't more money in subsidized housing because that place needs a bit more than a spit-shine.

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Re: Westport

Post by kcjak » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:13 am

flyingember wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 am
kcjak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:41 pm
That raggedy strip of shops and 'spa' needs to go.
Does it?

Capitalism says that as long as owner of the strip of shops stops is making money off it greater than the return on selling it then it should stick around.
You're a genius! Coming at this as someone other than the property owner, I don't know why I never considered that! Just because it's (possibly) making money for the owner doesn't mean it's beneficial to the neighborhood or those of us passing by it every day can't aspire to something more. Renting out a space to anyone who will pay the rent might be good business sense for some, but doesn't always bring anything to the neighborhood.

Likewise, holding on to a property because you're asking to much for it (i.e. the vacant house between Simply Grooming by Gia and Meshuggah Bagels) or because you can't afford to do anything with it (the vacant buildings owned by the Center for Spiritual Living on 39th/Roanoke) keeps an area from reaching it's full potential.

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Re: Westport

Post by TheLastGentleman » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:42 am

flyingember wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 am
Capitalism says that as long as owner of the strip of shops stops is making money off it greater than the return on selling it then it should stick around.
Time to overthrow capitalism.

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Re: Westport

Post by kboish » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:48 am

flyingember wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 am
Capitalism says that as long as owner of the strip of shops stops is making money off it greater than the return on selling it then it should stick around.
Does it?

I thought Capitalism would suggest that if a parcel could produce more profits that market pressures would transform that parcel into a use that generates the higher profits. Maybe land/property ownership laws subterfuge market pressures or we don't really live in a "free-market" economy?

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Re: Westport

Post by mean » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:53 am

We live in a free market economy as long as you can afford to participate, which is basically how it works everywhere else, but I think in most other places they're at least honest about it being bribery.

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Re: Westport

Post by flyingember » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:37 pm

kboish wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:48 am
flyingember wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 am
Capitalism says that as long as owner of the strip of shops stops is making money off it greater than the return on selling it then it should stick around.
Maybe land/property ownership laws subterfuge market pressures or we don't really live in a "free-market" economy?
It's way more complex than that.

Some properties are purposefully owned to serve as collateral for other projects.

Not all owners will be able to access the capital to obtain the maximum value out of their property. How do you build better when you can't get a loan and you're living off your tenants?

There's also the microeconomic aspects.
Disinterest in doing anything more than what they have can explain a lot of decisions but not all.

There's personal and cultural reasons. Imagine being Jewish and owning the building that leases space to the only Jewish Deli in a community.

People have kept around buildings because their father and grandfather owned it and you're not selling for any reason.

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