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Re: Westport

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:21 pm
by flyingember
brewcrew1000 wrote:I honestly think anti density people would rather see the neighborhood completely rot, a ghost land/shell of a place as long as it preserves that historic feel
The historic feel like Times Square once had with prostitution and crime?

Re: Westport

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:35 pm
by brewcrew1000
flyingember wrote:
brewcrew1000 wrote:I honestly think anti density people would rather see the neighborhood completely rot, a ghost land/shell of a place as long as it preserves that historic feel
The historic feel like Times Square once had with prostitution and crime?
I'd rather take 1970's Deuce Crime then what we have today. I'm fine with sleazy, divey kind of crime where most of it is done by Mobsters, an occasional knife robber and the Prostitutes and Cops have a relationship. An occasional guy with a with a knife down an alley saying "Give me your money" is a relief compared to what we have to deal with today. People are being gunned down in parking lots for looking at people the wrong way or staring at a girlfriend in a bar or even for making fun of somebody.

Re: Westport

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:48 pm
by WSPanic
brewcrew1000 wrote:
flyingember wrote:
brewcrew1000 wrote:I honestly think anti density people would rather see the neighborhood completely rot, a ghost land/shell of a place as long as it preserves that historic feel
The historic feel like Times Square once had with prostitution and crime?
I'd rather take 1970's Deuce Crime then what we have today. I'm fine with sleazy, divey kind of crime where most of it is done by Mobsters, an occasional knife robber and the Prostitutes and Cops have a relationship. An occasional guy with a with a knife down an alley saying "Give me your money" is a relief compared to what we have to deal with today. People are being gunned down in parking lots for looking at people the wrong way or staring at a girlfriend in a bar or even for making fun of somebody.
I think you over romanticize the violence of the 1970's. Forgetting the bombings and people with gunshots found dead in their own trunk (the cute mob stuff you don't seem to mind), KC murders and aggravated assaults were way up in the mid 70's compared to the decade before. This was NOT just random knife crimes - these were assualts and murders. I'm not saying shit isn't a bit more messed up today, but let's not over romanticize what happened here in the 70's and 80's. It wasn't exactly pretty.

Re: Westport

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:06 pm
by TheBigChuckbowski
The U.S. murder rate in the 70s was almost double what it is now.

Re: Westport

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:35 pm
by beautyfromashes
TheBigChuckbowski wrote:The U.S. murder rate in the 70s was almost double what it is now.
That war on drugs might actually be working!

Re: Westport

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:56 pm
by Highlander
beautyfromashes wrote:
TheBigChuckbowski wrote:The U.S. murder rate in the 70s was almost double what it is now.
That war on drugs might actually be working!
Many people have tied the drop in the murder rate to the US supreme court decision on abortion. If you look at when the murder rate started to decline and how precipitous the decline was, that argument does make some sense.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... 1980-peak/

Re: Westport

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:30 am
by brewcrew1000

Re: Westport

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:46 am
by shinatoo
Yeah, lead. It correlates across several countries rather than Abortion which only correlates to the USA.

Re: Westport

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:50 pm
by chaglang
Also a strong correlation with the end of the OPEC Oil Embargo. ;-)

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:44 pm
by mgh7676
Wasn't sure where to put this one....I guess the Westport is close enough.

Anyone know why this building is currently being demoed? This city is getting knocked down faster than it is being built up.
https://goo.gl/maps/fodpk8xnQF32

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:48 pm
by JBmidtown
Shit I thought they were just fixing the roof?

But if they’re demoing it it’s probably for even more parking because the true spirit of Kansad City is an overweight white male with BBQ stains on his Charlie Hustle shirt as he chugs a gallon of gasoline.

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:43 pm
by kcjak
The old three story apartment?!? I'm all for the BOA building going, but I'll be pretty pissed if this goes. Wonder if there are any plans for replacing it? And didn't the moratorium take effect or does it not go all the way to Main? Historic KC is gonna go nuts.

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:55 pm
by DaveKCMO
mgh7676 wrote:Wasn't sure where to put this one....I guess the Westport is close enough.

Anyone know why this building is currently being demoed? This city is getting knocked down faster than it is being built up.
https://goo.gl/maps/fodpk8xnQF32
isn't this an office complex for sutherland's lumber?

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:20 pm
by mgh7676
The owner shows up as "Cimarron Lumber & Supply Company" on Parcel Viewer. Building Demo Permit was issued on 11/15.

Re: Westport

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:38 am
by DaveKCMO
mgh7676 wrote:The owner shows up as "Cimarron Lumber & Supply Company" on Parcel Viewer. Building Demo Permit was issued on 11/15.
aka sutherland's.

Re: Westport

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:12 am
by beautyfromashes
Yeah, that’s disgusting!

Re: Westport

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:58 am
by AlbertHammond
mgh7676 wrote:Wasn't sure where to put this one....I guess the Westport is close enough.

Anyone know why this building is currently being demoed? This city is getting knocked down faster than it is being built up.
https://goo.gl/maps/fodpk8xnQF32
Photo taken this morning...
Image

Re: Westport

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:10 am
by flyingember
brewcrew1000 wrote:I honestly think anti density people would rather see the neighborhood completely rot, a ghost land/shell of a place as long as it preserves that historic feel
Ghost towns are historic too.

Re: Westport

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:18 am
by DaveKCMO
AlbertHammond wrote:
mgh7676 wrote:Wasn't sure where to put this one....I guess the Westport is close enough.

Anyone know why this building is currently being demoed? This city is getting knocked down faster than it is being built up.
https://goo.gl/maps/fodpk8xnQF32
Photo taken this morning...
Image
i tweeted your image to raise visibility. hope you don't mind!

Re: Westport

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:21 am
by grovester
Is it my imagination or do those buildings look to be in good shape and well maintained?