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Re: Westport

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:32 pm
by DaveKCMO
pash wrote:Can you upload it to Dropbox or Google Drive or whatever and post a public link?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx1_a ... WFaSUJDRzA

Re: Westport

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:36 pm
by pash
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Re: Westport

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:35 pm
by chaglang
beautyfromashes wrote:Someone's tell me how Shields got elected.
You won't be surprised to know that the local preservation community played a major role. Also Jim Glover ran an inept campaign. She's beatable in 2019.

Re: Westport

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:42 pm
by beautyfromashes
It seems like we recycle the same damn people! Glover v. Shields was our option? Come on! There are so many dynamic people in this district. And there should be a limit on how many lawyers can be on the council. Time for some new blood.

Re: Westport

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:52 pm
by chaglang
You got my vote.

The moratorium on design may be illegal. Regardless, the survey is meaningless unless there is an accompanying attempt to create an overlay district in Westport that either creates a separate demolition review for historic properties and/or mandates design standards. I am speculating about that, but there is currently a movement afoot to amend the PMAP and extend the Plaza "bowl" north to 43rd.

Surprised that nobody's mentioned Shields' proposals that parking be built into the cost of rent on new apartment units. Talk about poor policy.

Re: Westport

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:32 pm
by JBmidtown
chaglang wrote: The moratorium on design may be illegal.
I was wondering if that was the case. How likely is an illegal moratorium capable of gumming up the works?

Re: Westport

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:07 am
by DaveKCMO
pash wrote:Oh, but the cooperative plan does note that the TDD sales tax was extended through 2043, a horizon much farther in the future than I'd previously seen.
this is type of thing that has the state auditor in flames (not the streetcar TDD, which was voted on by residents).
How has the continued existence of the Plaza TDD factored into the creation of the new streetcar TDD?
not a factor at all. it's no different than the "1200 Main" TDD that existed (a sales tax for pretty much the exact same purpose: garages for one developer/owner) when the downtown TDD was formed in 2012.

Re: Westport

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:08 am
by DaveKCMO
are people angry enough about the proposed vacation of westport road to challenge it with a referendum?

Re: Westport

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:55 am
by DaveKCMO
pew-pew-pew! http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/cr ... 46168.html

if this is happening while the streets are already blocked off, what makes the westport business league thinks metal detectors or wands will prevent it (or even reduce it) when they "own" the street?

Re: Westport

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:13 pm
by pash
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Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:04 am
by kcjak
DaveKCMO wrote:pew-pew-pew! http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/cr ... 46168.html

if this is happening while the streets are already blocked off, what makes the westport business league thinks metal detectors or wands will prevent it (or even reduce it) when they "own" the street?
And it doesn't address the continuing problems on the periphery - the intersection of 40th and Penn has been a problem for years and there was just an incident behind the AC Hotel a week or so ago.

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:16 am
by earthling
Actions with just Westport can't solve KC's overall gun crime culture as it needs a broader focus. But could shutting down Westport say 1AM Fri/Sat reduce it a bit? Might be worth trying one summer.

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:47 am
by DaveKCMO
earthling wrote:Actions with just Westport can't solve KC's overall gun crime culture as it needs a broader focus. But could shutting down Westport say 1AM Fri/Sat reduce it a bit? Might be worth trying one summer.
they do that already with a festival permit.

the business league/CID want to wand patrons for guns, which they can't do if the space is public (for fear of an ACLU lawsuit).

of course, they will still get sued but it will be the westport CID that takes the hit and not the city.

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:02 am
by chaglang
Vacating part of Mill Street for the Manor Square hotel is on this week's council legislative agenda.

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:34 am
by earthling
By shutting down at 1AM I meant the bars, not the streets. I don't think privatizing the streets will make much of a difference as problems happen with outskirts of Westport. If privatizing the streets, would it be fairly easy to go back? Can see it opening another can of worms.

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:03 am
by chaglang
The vacation would need to be permanent in order for the wanding to pass a court challenge. It can't look like an end run around the legislature.

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:27 am
by DaveKCMO
chaglang wrote:The vacation would need to be permanent in order for the wanding to pass a court challenge. It can't look like an end run around the legislature.
yup. we've been told "lawyers have been looking at this for years and this is the only solution".

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:51 am
by WoodDraw
Why don't the individual bars start wanding or doing pat downs? Or are they already?

Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:54 am
by pash
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Re: Westport

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:59 am
by AlbertHammond
pash wrote:
chaglang wrote:Vacating part of Mill Street for the Manor Square hotel is on this week's council legislative agenda.
Does anybody yet know what this vacation specifically proposes? It doesn't really make sense to me, unless the driveway to the garage is officially part of Mill Street or they want to narrow the road slightly or something.
...can someone share a link to the plans?