Westport

Discuss items in the urban core outside of Downtown as described above. Everything in the core including the east side (18th & Vine area), Plaza, Westport, Brookside, Valentine, Waldo, 39th street, & the entire midtown area.
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Re: Westport

Post by flyingember » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:21 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:I honestly think anti density people would rather see the neighborhood completely rot, a ghost land/shell of a place as long as it preserves that historic feel
The historic feel like Times Square once had with prostitution and crime?

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Re: Westport

Post by brewcrew1000 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:35 pm

flyingember wrote:
brewcrew1000 wrote:I honestly think anti density people would rather see the neighborhood completely rot, a ghost land/shell of a place as long as it preserves that historic feel
The historic feel like Times Square once had with prostitution and crime?
I'd rather take 1970's Deuce Crime then what we have today. I'm fine with sleazy, divey kind of crime where most of it is done by Mobsters, an occasional knife robber and the Prostitutes and Cops have a relationship. An occasional guy with a with a knife down an alley saying "Give me your money" is a relief compared to what we have to deal with today. People are being gunned down in parking lots for looking at people the wrong way or staring at a girlfriend in a bar or even for making fun of somebody.

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Re: Westport

Post by WSPanic » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:48 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:
flyingember wrote:
brewcrew1000 wrote:I honestly think anti density people would rather see the neighborhood completely rot, a ghost land/shell of a place as long as it preserves that historic feel
The historic feel like Times Square once had with prostitution and crime?
I'd rather take 1970's Deuce Crime then what we have today. I'm fine with sleazy, divey kind of crime where most of it is done by Mobsters, an occasional knife robber and the Prostitutes and Cops have a relationship. An occasional guy with a with a knife down an alley saying "Give me your money" is a relief compared to what we have to deal with today. People are being gunned down in parking lots for looking at people the wrong way or staring at a girlfriend in a bar or even for making fun of somebody.
I think you over romanticize the violence of the 1970's. Forgetting the bombings and people with gunshots found dead in their own trunk (the cute mob stuff you don't seem to mind), KC murders and aggravated assaults were way up in the mid 70's compared to the decade before. This was NOT just random knife crimes - these were assualts and murders. I'm not saying shit isn't a bit more messed up today, but let's not over romanticize what happened here in the 70's and 80's. It wasn't exactly pretty.

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Re: Westport

Post by TheBigChuckbowski » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:06 pm

The U.S. murder rate in the 70s was almost double what it is now.

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Re: Westport

Post by beautyfromashes » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:35 pm

TheBigChuckbowski wrote:The U.S. murder rate in the 70s was almost double what it is now.
That war on drugs might actually be working!

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Re: Westport

Post by Highlander » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:56 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:
TheBigChuckbowski wrote:The U.S. murder rate in the 70s was almost double what it is now.
That war on drugs might actually be working!
Many people have tied the drop in the murder rate to the US supreme court decision on abortion. If you look at when the murder rate started to decline and how precipitous the decline was, that argument does make some sense.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... 1980-peak/

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Re: Westport

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Re: Westport

Post by shinatoo » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:46 am

Yeah, lead. It correlates across several countries rather than Abortion which only correlates to the USA.
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Re: Westport

Post by chaglang » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:50 pm

Also a strong correlation with the end of the OPEC Oil Embargo. ;-)

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Re: Westport

Post by mgh7676 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:44 pm

Wasn't sure where to put this one....I guess the Westport is close enough.

Anyone know why this building is currently being demoed? This city is getting knocked down faster than it is being built up.
https://goo.gl/maps/fodpk8xnQF32

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Re: Westport

Post by JBmidtown » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:48 pm

Shit I thought they were just fixing the roof?

But if they’re demoing it it’s probably for even more parking because the true spirit of Kansad City is an overweight white male with BBQ stains on his Charlie Hustle shirt as he chugs a gallon of gasoline.

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Re: Westport

Post by kcjak » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:43 pm

The old three story apartment?!? I'm all for the BOA building going, but I'll be pretty pissed if this goes. Wonder if there are any plans for replacing it? And didn't the moratorium take effect or does it not go all the way to Main? Historic KC is gonna go nuts.

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Re: Westport

Post by DaveKCMO » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:55 pm

mgh7676 wrote:Wasn't sure where to put this one....I guess the Westport is close enough.

Anyone know why this building is currently being demoed? This city is getting knocked down faster than it is being built up.
https://goo.gl/maps/fodpk8xnQF32
isn't this an office complex for sutherland's lumber?

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Re: Westport

Post by mgh7676 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:20 pm

The owner shows up as "Cimarron Lumber & Supply Company" on Parcel Viewer. Building Demo Permit was issued on 11/15.

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Re: Westport

Post by DaveKCMO » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:38 am

mgh7676 wrote:The owner shows up as "Cimarron Lumber & Supply Company" on Parcel Viewer. Building Demo Permit was issued on 11/15.
aka sutherland's.

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Re: Westport

Post by beautyfromashes » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:12 am

Yeah, that’s disgusting!

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Re: Westport

Post by AlbertHammond » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:58 am

mgh7676 wrote:Wasn't sure where to put this one....I guess the Westport is close enough.

Anyone know why this building is currently being demoed? This city is getting knocked down faster than it is being built up.
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Re: Westport

Post by flyingember » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:10 am

brewcrew1000 wrote:I honestly think anti density people would rather see the neighborhood completely rot, a ghost land/shell of a place as long as it preserves that historic feel
Ghost towns are historic too.

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Re: Westport

Post by DaveKCMO » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:18 am

AlbertHammond wrote:
mgh7676 wrote:Wasn't sure where to put this one....I guess the Westport is close enough.

Anyone know why this building is currently being demoed? This city is getting knocked down faster than it is being built up.
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Re: Westport

Post by grovester » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:21 am

Is it my imagination or do those buildings look to be in good shape and well maintained?

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