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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:12 am

mykn wrote:Yes, this was an OHP meeting actually. Please come to the next one, we will be discussing the OPUS development more. I believe the next will be on June 21st.

Have you gotten signed up for the streetcar election yet? We're having an OHP signup at Mother Earth Coffee this Sunday from 11-6.


events all over midtown this weekend: https://www.facebook.com/pg/streetcarneighbors/events/

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby brewcrew1000 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:23 am

DaveKCMO wrote:
mykn wrote:Yes, this was an OHP meeting actually. Please come to the next one, we will be discussing the OPUS development more. I believe the next will be on June 21st.

Have you gotten signed up for the streetcar election yet? We're having an OHP signup at Mother Earth Coffee this Sunday from 11-6.


events all over midtown this weekend: https://www.facebook.com/pg/streetcarneighbors/events/


As a Pro Streetcar person I was wondering Are there any places where anti-streetcar sign ups going on? Does anyone know if the churches in Midtown are getting parishioners to sign up so they can vote no?
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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby mykn » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:33 am

brewcrew1000 wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:
mykn wrote:Yes, this was an OHP meeting actually. Please come to the next one, we will be discussing the OPUS development more. I believe the next will be on June 21st.

Have you gotten signed up for the streetcar election yet? We're having an OHP signup at Mother Earth Coffee this Sunday from 11-6.


events all over midtown this weekend: https://www.facebook.com/pg/streetcarneighbors/events/


As a Pro Streetcar person I was wondering Are there any places were there are anti-streetcar sign ups going on? Does anyone know if the churches in Midtown are getting parishioners to sign up so they can vote no?


Good question, I haven't heard of any besides this DeJanes nonsense in our neighborhood. I try to stay away from that crap though, no need for higher blood pressure.

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby earthling » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:40 am

Seems many Midtowners were not particularly interested in the original downtown streetcar line but now that it's running successfully they want it through Midtown. Even those I know who mostly were concerned about property tax increases now want it as long as it's free to ride. Was almost certain the initial Midtown streetcar expansion vote a few years ago would not pass as many first wanted to see if downtown line would work out. This is truly the ShowMe state after all.

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby kboish » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:46 am

earthling wrote: This is truly the ShowMe state after all.


It is surprising how accurate this adage really is.

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby auntbigdog » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:22 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:Does anyone know if the churches in Midtown are getting parishioners to sign up so they can vote no?

I haven't heard a peep from my church, which is right on Main. I would guess -- although I in no way represent the parish -- that our leadership would be in favor of the streetcar extension, because it could make it easier for people in need to reach the church for food distribution, which is a large component of our outreach.

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby Highlander » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:29 am

earthling wrote:Seems many Midtowners were not particularly interested in the original downtown streetcar line but now that it's running successfully they want it through Midtown. Even those I know who mostly were concerned about property tax increases now want it as long as it's free to ride. Was almost certain the initial Midtown streetcar expansion vote a few years ago would not pass as many first wanted to see if downtown line would work out. This is truly the ShowMe state after all.


Would an expansion be free? I thought the plaza route would be a pay route.

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby pash » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:02 am

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby earthling » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:51 am

^Free fare buses would/should be a boost to re-energizing the city core, especially the E Side. With KC's desire to become a 'living lab', that would certainly make for an interesting say 5 year experiment if the TDD or other funding can be pulled off.

Many cities have free bus along key shopping/tourist districts (like Denver's 16th St Mall) but is there any US city with several free bus lines for purpose of commutes or broader connectivity?

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby Riverite » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:35 am

Kind of what I was talking about with the transportation aspect, was that if you could establish a small tax in each county, or a multi county transportation tax, then we are no longer waiting around to see if the Feds will hand us the rest of the money. At that point anyone city or district within that boundary that wanted to establish a tdd could start that and the build out could begin. I know that transportation as a right seems kind of radical, but I honestly think things like that help bring young people and hype to our city, in previously unseen quantities.

The other benefit is it would be a huge helping hand for the east side residents, and instead of wondering if we will have 10 miles of rail before 2050 we could have 50-60. I also think this might be a solution to our sprawl, a way to level the playing field with free parking, and bring density not only to our city but to our suburbs as well

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby mykn » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:08 am

Ohh how about higher taxes on parking lots to pay for fare free busses!

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby DaveKCMO » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:32 pm

earthling wrote:Many cities have free bus along key shopping/tourist districts (like Denver's 16th St Mall) but is there any US city with several free bus lines for purpose of commutes or broader connectivity?


there are no US cities our size with citywide free transit. most are either college or resort towns, or only offer free service in a specific zone (typically downtowns).

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby flyingember » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:44 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
earthling wrote:Many cities have free bus along key shopping/tourist districts (like Denver's 16th St Mall) but is there any US city with several free bus lines for purpose of commutes or broader connectivity?


there are no US cities our size with citywide free transit. most are either college or resort towns, or only offer free service in a specific zone (typically downtowns).


There's a wikipedia article on the subject
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_f ... ted_States

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby kcjak » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:55 am

The former Coldsnow building has a sign up saying it will be a new dog camp (or something like that)

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby flyingember » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:20 am

kcjak wrote:The former Coldsnow building has a sign up saying it will be a new dog camp (or something like that)


which building?

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby kcjak » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:11 am

The one just north or Pryde's - the beige stucco building. I think it was Keith Coldsnow, no?

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby flyingember » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:33 am

kcjak wrote:The one just north or Pryde's - the beige stucco building. I think it was Keith Coldsnow, no?

Not even close

This is who was there last
https://www.facebook.com/Gore-Automotiv ... 411110087/

The Coldsnow art store is 9 blocks west

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby Critical_Mass » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:10 am

flyingember wrote:
kcjak wrote:The one just north or Pryde's - the beige stucco building. I think it was Keith Coldsnow, no?

Not even close

This is who was there last
https://www.facebook.com/Gore-Automotiv ... 411110087/

The Coldsnow art store is 9 blocks west


Closer than you realize. That building was an art supply store at one point. It closed maybe 2005 or later. I was a Keith Coldsnow's before they moved. It may have also been a Utretcht before they moved, though I remember that they were in that strip mall that houses FreeBirds. Source: I worked in the neighborhood and shopped at both for work-related supplies.

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby Midtownkid » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:38 pm

flyingember wrote:
kcjak wrote:The one just north or Pryde's - the beige stucco building. I think it was Keith Coldsnow, no?

Not even close

This is who was there last
https://www.facebook.com/Gore-Automotiv ... 411110087/

The Coldsnow art store is 9 blocks west


Yeah, it definitely was Coldsnow back in the 1990s.

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Re: Westport's fate post-P&L

Postby mean » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:32 pm

I distinctly remember that being a Coldsnow--or at least some kind of art supply place--whilst wandering around Westport when I was supposed to be in high school.


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