1800 Walnut

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by kboish » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:55 pm

I really think the term crossroads "traditionalist" is hilarious. People come up with all sorts of ways to not call themselves NIMBY.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by Chris Stritzel » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:24 pm

I really and truly believe that sooner or later, Copaken is going to build on this entire block. The have Corrigan 1 and have 2 is being built then you have this. On a note regarding architecture, I like it and It has a more tamed feel of a Studio Gang project. As for the Crossroads "traditionalists", they will have to learn that with growth comes new construction. Not everything can be 3 floors. If there is demand for a new building of more height than 3 floors, guess what, buildings taller than 3 floors will be proposed.

On a slightly related note, I live in St. Louis and this seems lie the sort of thing that would be built in the Central West End. To me, the Crossroads will become an area like the CWE with tons of density, construction, a place where old and new things blend and be full of shops and restaurants. The streetcar also helps this, so the Crossroads area is a very favorable spot for this kind of stuff.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by TheLastGentleman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:16 pm

If my calculations are correct, absolutely nothing of importance will be obscured by this building when viewed from liberty memorial.

I'm sure that's a relief to everyone

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by earthling » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:20 pm

That's too bad. Something needs to break up the MCW (Monotonous Cordish Wall) in progress.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by moderne » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:16 am

Same architect as H&R Block.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by im2kull » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:32 pm

These comments are interesting.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by DaveKCMO » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:54 pm

kboish wrote:I really think the term crossroads "traditionalist" is hilarious. People come up with all sorts of ways to not call themselves NIMBY.
You’re welcome. Sometimes I try not to insult my neighbors.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by GRID » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:26 pm

I love everything about this project. Nice design! The city should basically rubber stamp this as far as the design and height goes. Hopefully the street interaction is good.

It's interesting that this project has come out of nowhere and could break ground many months before Three Light.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by beautyfromashes » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:29 pm

This one’s a homerun!

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by normalthings » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:39 pm

GRID wrote:I love everything about this project. Nice design! The city should basically rubber stamp this as far as the design and height goes. Hopefully the street interaction is good.

It's interesting that this project has come out of nowhere and could break ground many months before Three Light.
It’s interesting how this looks so much better.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by rxlexi » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:45 pm

This project is a wonderful surprise. Unique, dynamic design (though looking forward to more detailed renderings/additional angles), the perfect location, an interesting unit mix. BUILD IT NOW.

It's frustrating that there is "any" negative discussion re: potential height, on a 14-story building going up on a surface lot downtown. If anything, it would be great to see more larger structures in the xroads creating a spine along Main and Grand from the loop to CC. I mean this is not an especially tall building, particularly in relation to the adjacent Corrigan Station.

Also, here's hoping to seeing continued use of progressive design in new-construction deals downtown/plaza. Quite refreshing.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by DaveKCMO » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:06 pm

Today it was described as a "joint venture" with Burns & McDonnell and a "design build" project. I'm guessing B&M is putting in some equity?

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by jasty5 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:24 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:Today it was described as a "joint venture" with Burns & McDonnell and a "design build" project. I'm guessing B&M is putting in some equity?
I work there. I don’t think we are putting in any equity that I know of so I’m interested by that comment.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by normalthings » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:45 am

jasty5 wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:Today it was described as a "joint venture" with Burns & McDonnell and a "design build" project. I'm guessing B&M is putting in some equity?
I work there. I don’t think we are putting in any equity that I know of so I’m interested by that comment.
Equity in exchange for design/ build services?

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by DaveKCMO » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:13 pm

Pretty sure this will be built. Apparently doesn't need Council approval.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by smh » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:44 am

DaveKCMO wrote:Pretty sure this will be built. Apparently doesn't need Council approval.
I thought all projects over a certain dollar value had to get CPC/Council approval. Am I mistaken? Surely this one would qualify.

Regardless, it should get Ushered (see what I did there) through the process as speedily as possible.

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by flyingember » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:31 am

Not necessarily. CPC is about zoning exceptions so if they follow zoning there's alternative ways defined

88-517-03 - EXEMPTION

The development plan review procedures of this article do not apply to development of single family detached houses or any developments for which plans have been reviewed and approved pursuant to the urban redevelopment, master planned development, or other equivalent development plan procedures of this zoning and development code. This provision is intended to clarify that development plan review is not required for projects that have received equivalent review through the city's other plan review procedures.

Implemented/updated in Oct 2017

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Re: 1800 Walnut

Post by smh » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:29 am

Alright

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