Some downtown conceptual/potential projects

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Some downtown conceptual/potential projects

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I'm assuming office buildings would need to find a tenant first.

https://cityscenekc.com/downtown-counci ... -projects/

Is this a real proposal or a wish list?
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Was hoping for something more substantial for Wash Sq Park but this isn't too bad...
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Any recent action with this?
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1034 has been floating around for decades
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Thought I've seen it before. Does it have any meat behind it now? Class A vacancy might still be just a bit too high to build substantial speculative office space.
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Is 3rd/Grand still considered a potential project? Thought it was more solid...

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These are all just dreams at this point.
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The Washington Square Park image looks similar to this image of a downtown stadium.
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Not sure how I feel about either project, but they're very pretty pictures. Anyone know where they came from? The stadium one was from Tony's KC and he didn't provide a source.
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TheLastGentleman wrote:Anyone know where they came from? The stadium one was from Tony's KC and he didn't provide a source.
The picture isn't there anymore, but I'm pretty sure it's from this...

http://royalscorner.blogspot.com/2005/1 ... ts-to.html

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That downtown stadium image can't be done now that the flashcube is being renovated.

The outfield in the image sits where it is
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Renovated buildings can be bought and demolished.
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KCPowercat wrote:Renovated buildings can be bought and demolished.
Imagine the PR of the city tearing down a building that got tax credits to save in order to build a baseball stadium.
anyone against big government handouts would gravitate to the irony of that
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Oh well. The orientation of that outfield is just plain wrong anyways. I think only Comerica Park has as south-facing of an outfield as that rendering and it's a problem.
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Just move it a few blocks north over where the highway is now. Done.
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beautyfromashes wrote:Just move it a few blocks north over where the highway is now. Done.
...and rotate it 180 degrees
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flyingember wrote:
KCPowercat wrote:Renovated buildings can be bought and demolished.
Imagine the PR of the city tearing down a building that got tax credits to save in order to build a baseball stadium.
anyone against big government handouts would gravitate to the irony of that
Especially when there are 3-4 other and better sites with cleared land, better highway access, better views, etc.
Putting a stadium in the north loop would do nothing to develop it back into the thriving area it was 70 years ago.
It's sat empty for 5+ decades. The only hope for it's comeback is the elimination of the north freeway, which is finally being discussed.
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JBmidtown wrote:
...and rotate it 180 degrees
Curious, why? Wouldn't it be better to have a view of DT skyline in the outfield. I guess most people would enter from home plate, so that would be awkward. Maybe, rotate 90 degrees to face Bartle.
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It's less to do with view and more to do with shadows and glare from the sun throughout the day. You typically want to have a ball field with center field pointing northeast to avoid the worst effects from the sun throughout the day. That's why there's usually a standard where most MLB fields are oriented this way.
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There's a graphic here showing positioning of stadiums

http://www.hardballtimes.com/lost-in-th ... ientation/

Meeting the rule and having a downtown view would be hard except for one place. On the hill at Cambridge Dr, directly west of the Roasterie. Would be a horrible place for a stadium.
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JBmidtown wrote:It's less to do with view and more to do with shadows and glare from the sun throughout the day. You typically want to have a ball field with center field pointing northeast to avoid the worst effects from the sun throughout the day. That's why there's usually a standard where most MLB fields are oriented this way.
Ok, makes sense. So, rotate it 90 degrees so it faces the River Market? That would be alright and you'd still have 909 in right field.
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JBmidtown wrote:Oh well. The orientation of that outfield is just plain wrong anyways. I think only Comerica Park has as south-facing of an outfield as that rendering and it's a problem.
PNC Park faces south. It is definitely not the preferred orientation, but clearly, some exceptions are made.
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