Another 16th & Main hotel

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby KCPowercat » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:06 pm

No Main Street driveway please!

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby DaveKCMO » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:15 pm

KCPowercat wrote:No Main Street driveway.


call/email the planner and 4th district council reps...

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby KCPowercat » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:17 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
KCPowercat wrote:No Main Street driveway.


call/email the planner and 4th district council reps...


Will do...wasn't limiting driveways onto Main part of the zoning standard or something when the streetcar was built...is there some standard to point to when sending the email?

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby DaveKCMO » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:24 pm

KCPowercat wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:
KCPowercat wrote:No Main Street driveway.


call/email the planner and 4th district council reps...


Will do...wasn't limiting driveways onto Main part of the zoning standard or something when the streetcar was built...is there some standard to point to when sending the email?


believe it or not, no. you'd need the TOD policy in effect at that streetcar stop.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby beautyfromashes » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:44 pm

I know everyone will be excited about new development on Main, but I'm starting to wonder if some of these hotels aren't good for the Crossroads environment. They don't really fit into the history look (painted plaster to look like brick, carcentric, modern color, etc). Plus, we seem to be getting mid grade hotels instead of more high end chains. Does having more of these hurt is in attracting higher end?

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby KCPowercat » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:53 pm

Yeah can't say Hampton inn excites me too much....Would much rather an aloft or something as I think that would fit the neighborhood more....The hotel indigo and one by Lulu's (forgot the name) seem to fit the neighborhood.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby flyingember » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:59 am

KCPowercat wrote:Yeah can't say Hampton inn excites me too much....Would much rather an aloft or something as I think that would fit the neighborhood more....The hotel indigo and one by Lulu's (forgot the name) seem to fit the neighborhood.

It's next door to an auto repair place...

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby beautyfromashes » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:02 am

flyingember wrote:It's next door to an auto repair place...

I wonder if in a few years the developers of the auto repair lot will say, "But, its next door to a Hampton Inn."?

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:55 am

An auto repair place for sale....Not sure your point.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby aknowledgeableperson » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:36 am

beautyfromashes wrote:I know everyone will be excited about new development on Main, but I'm starting to wonder if some of these hotels aren't good for the Crossroads environment. They don't really fit into the history look (painted plaster to look like brick, carcentric, modern color, etc). Plus, we seem to be getting mid grade hotels instead of more high end chains. Does having more of these hurt is in attracting higher end?


Don't know about the effect in the future but I believe all of these smaller hotels did have an effect on the size of the proposed convention hotel. First they were shooting for 1,000 rooms now the proposal is for 800 rooms.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby mister816 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:15 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:
flyingember wrote:It's next door to an auto repair place...

I wonder if in a few years the developers of the auto repair lot will say, "But, its next door to a Hampton Inn."?


I don't get it

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby beautyfromashes » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:49 pm

In a few years, this area will be full of converted condos, high end restaurants, luxury business towers, etc. This is already starting to happen. By the time the auto repair spot is developed I could see a Hampton Inn being one of the less favorable buildings in the area. To me, it just doesn't fit. The Residence Inn across the street doesn't fit either, but they built it before the area has started to boom. I just hope the city doesn't fill the best locations along the streetcar with lower quality developments just because we remember when anything filling a spot was a good thing.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby missingkc » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:11 pm

I suppose Hampton Inn did their research and found the market to be a good fit for them. If the market changes, the building can be reflagged.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby ldai_phs » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:36 pm

aknowledgeableperson wrote:
beautyfromashes wrote:I know everyone will be excited about new development on Main, but I'm starting to wonder if some of these hotels aren't good for the Crossroads environment. They don't really fit into the history look (painted plaster to look like brick, carcentric, modern color, etc). Plus, we seem to be getting mid grade hotels instead of more high end chains. Does having more of these hurt is in attracting higher end?


Don't know about the effect in the future but I believe all of these smaller hotels did have an effect on the size of the proposed convention hotel. First they were shooting for 1,000 rooms now the proposal is for 800 rooms.


The financial issues that made the hotel smaller are probably closer linked to the time it's taken since that idea was first conceived many moons ago(Costs have increased a lot) as well as no city guarantee.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:21 pm

Right...the convention hotel didn't go to 800 rooms because of a smattering of hotels popping up around downtown.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby ldai_phs » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:34 pm

KCPowercat wrote:Right...the convention hotel didn't go to 800 rooms because of a smattering of hotels popping up around downtown.

Well it seemed like they decided on 800 rooms well before many of these hotels where announced.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby mister816 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:24 am

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby KCPowercat » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:39 am

ldai_phs wrote:
KCPowercat wrote:Right...the convention hotel didn't go to 800 rooms because of a smattering of hotels popping up around downtown.

Well it seemed like they decided on 800 rooms well before many of these hotels where announced.


We agree with each other

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby aknowledgeableperson » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:23 am

From what I can tell the announcement that it was to be a hotel with only 800 rooms was in May 2015. Before that the talk was 1,000 rooms. So I would imagine there were many new hotel announcements before May 2015, especially with those completed and now in construction.

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Re: Another 16th & Main hotel

Postby KCTOGA » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:15 am

Is there any time frame for when construction will begin?


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