OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by scooterj » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:17 pm

One vestige of the bank — the drive-through — will remain as part of the new project and will serve a yet-to-be-identifed coffee shop. The two outer lanes of the drive-through will become ITMs — an internet-based hybrid cousin of the ATM.

Mark Moberly, Sunflower’s director of development, said it was important to use the drive-through space, given that there are so few around Downtown and that it's unlikely more will be built.



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Sorry for the thread hijack, but one of the weirdest things to ever happen to me involved that drive-through.

About 6 years ago I was sitting at Zoo Bar on a Tuesday evening. It had already been a very weird night. First, a woman had been kicked out for groping men sitting at the bar. Then a cab pulled up and another woman arrived, and she started making passes at uninterested men trying to con them into paying for her drinks. When there were absolutely no takers, she got angry, screamed at all of us that one day we would all be lonely and actually long for a day when people like her would be interested in us, and stormed out. By that point a lot of people left because these two had each made people uncomfortable, and by the time it was dark it was just me, one other person, and the bartender.

A cab pulled up out front, and sat there for nearly 10 minutes as we could see somebody fumble around in the back seat. Finally a young man stepped out and entered the bar. He look disheveled and terrified.

He immediately asked if this was a safe place. He said that he was gay and had just been beaten by a group of bigots, and he wanted to know if he would be safe there. We assured him it was okay and asked if he wanted us to call the police. He said no, he just wanted to sit for a while and drink a PBR.

He then pulled out a credit card. Zoo is cash-only, and didn't have an ATM yet at the time. The closest one was in the drive-through mentioned above. We gave him directions to it, but having just been beaten up he was scared to walk outside alone and wanted someone to come with him.

All eyes turned to me. Sigh.

So we walked up the street, and as we reached the entrance to that alley, he asked me if I eat plasma like he does or just regular food.

He then explained that he was a time traveler from Century 22, and that while his beating had been only minutes earlier from his perspective, it was two weeks ago from mine. "Oh, then in that case they are probably gone by now," I said.

We approached the ATM and he asked what it was. I said "It's the ATM". "How quaint," he replied, "Such ancient technology. I am unfamiliar with how this works. You must do it for me, my stupidity is grand." So, yes, I had to insert his card, then enter his PIN, and enter the cash amount, and hand him his cash and card.

As we walked back to the bar he explained that in Century 22 he sells antiques -- mostly record album covers -- and he travels back to our era to purchase them and sell in Century 22. I told him he'd probably have more luck if he went back another couple of decades.

We got back inside and as I tried to discretely inform the others that this guy was crazy, he set his cash onto the bar next to the PBR that had just been pulled out of the ice. There was a puddle of ice melt and it got his money wet. He picked it up, looked at it, chuckled, and said "Wet money. I have not seen wet currency since I worked as a grim reaper on the Titanic. I sent them to their bloody, watery graves."

The next 40 minutes or so were actually kind of entertaining as he regaled us with stories about his travels to various eras, told us about the various implants he regretted not getting, marveled at his strength as he crushed an empty PBR can, and asked permission to vomit, and later rubbed his hands through my aura while at the same time asking permission to do so. But it started taking a dark turn when he insisted that from his knowledge of future events he needed our help building a bomb, and when he started asking us to google various serial killers we kicked him out.

He went up the street to what was then The Social. They sent him right back. Before we could block the door he was inside rambling about Einstein and that he had very important information about the Hubble that he needed to get to NASA. We suggested he tell them in person, and he asked to go to the Greyhound station. We called a cab, when it arrived he escorted him outside, gave the driver cash and told him to take the guy to the bus station, then we went back inside and locked the door.

About two months later there was a fluff piece on one of the local news stations about items in a lost-and-found, and it was casually mentioned that one of them was a journal from a 22nd-century time traveler.

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by chrizow » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:33 pm

thanks for helping me with that ATM.

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Post by shinatoo » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:36 pm

Did he tell you to buy Netflix stock?
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Post by FangKC » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:37 pm

It's obvious the guy was punking you all. No respectable gay person I know would buy Pabst Blue Ribbon with their own money. :D

At least we know there is a future.

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by WoodDraw » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:55 pm

Hi I would like to option that story for a movie if you could escort to the ATM.

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by tower » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:14 pm

shinatoo wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:36 pm
Did he tell you to buy Netflix stock?
For real, if I was going to go back to the past, I'd buy all the stock I could, forget about antiques.

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Post by shinatoo » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:19 pm

tower wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:14 pm
shinatoo wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:36 pm
Did he tell you to buy Netflix stock?
For real, if I was going to go back to the past, I'd buy all the stock I could, forget about antiques.
Gay, hipster, time travelers are assholes. From what I've heard.
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Post by KCPowercat » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:12 pm

Just buy the next guy the beer.

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by shinatoo » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:09 am

KCPowercat wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:12 pm
Just buy the next guy the beer.
And lose the story? Horrible advice.
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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by Eon Blue » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:18 am

What was the expiration date on his ATM card?

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Post by grovester » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:50 am

So 6 years ago you were a poster on this board and you didn't share with us? What else are you hiding?

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Post by TheLastGentleman » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:42 pm

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Looks like a 2-story atrium

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by FangKC » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:38 am

The Grand Adds Sixties Modern Cool to Downtown Living
The Grand, one of downtown’s biggest historic preservation projects ever, opens this week following a $65 million renovation that’s transformed a 1962 office tower into a stylish “Sixties Modern” living environment.

The 201 apartments in the former Traders National Bank Building at 1125 Grand are 20 percent pre-leased and interest has been strong, boosted by several networking events hosted at the building, said Mark Moberly of Sunflower Development Group.
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https://cityscenekc.com/the-grand-adds- ... wn-living/

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by wahoowa » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:14 am

went here for downtown dazzle this weekend. i like the way they got some natural light down into the lower level club lounge area. the views on the pool deck are good but i do question the value of putting such a small 4' pool up there, especially in a spot that looks like the pool itself is shaded for a good chunk of a day's pool hours. otherwise this seems about like all the comparable conversions downtown. not much setting it apart in a good or a bad way.

they said they're about 5% leased right now. it looked like only one of four elevators was running.

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Post by gfenn11 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:33 pm

wahoowa wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:14 am
went here for downtown dazzle this weekend. i like the way they got some natural light down into the lower level club lounge area. the views on the pool deck are good but i do question the value of putting such a small 4' pool up there, especially in a spot that looks like the pool itself is shaded for a good chunk of a day's pool hours. otherwise this seems about like all the comparable conversions downtown. not much setting it apart in a good or a bad way.

they said they're about 5% leased right now. it looked like only one of four elevators was running.
Agreed on everything- especially the glorified hot tub on the roof. I was surprised how open the staff were in telling us that barely anyone lives there.

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by grecobs » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:28 pm

5% is very low and they’re opening at the quiet lest time of year. Wonder how long it’ll take to hit 50%.

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Post by KCLover » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:20 pm

I'm only interested in a 2BR and no way in hell am I spending $1,975 -to $2,120 for 1100 sq of space and a funky layout. The living area in one plan is so small that you have to put furniture in front of a bedroom doorway and walk around it. No room for a kitchen table or any table for that matter either.

This is the layout I'm referring to if it's of any interest of you. https://cdngeneral.rentcafe.com/dmslive ... uality=85&

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Post by wahoowa » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:29 pm

agreed in that i don't like that layout (can't think of any 2br's with the living room sandwiched between the two bedrooms that i do like), but for better or worse that looks to be about the going rate for a smallish 2br in the CBD.

i'm not particularly enamored with the 1L or 2L 2br layouts, either. and 2L charges ~2400 for theirs, which are marginally better layouts but still around the same sqft count. there's only so much you can do in the 1000-1200 sqft range if you're going to require two bedrooms. gets a little better if you're okay with a single bathroom.

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Re: OFFICIAL - The Grand (former Traders on Grand)

Post by beautyfromashes » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:24 pm

What utilities are included with DT rentals. I assume that heating is included? water and trash? Also, it seems a lot of people complain about the price but most buildings include ammenities that remove costs you might normally have: pools, gym spaces, entertainment areas, etc. You have to give some value to those items.

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Post by gfenn11 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:06 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:24 pm
What utilities are included with DT rentals. I assume that heating is included? water and trash? Also, it seems a lot of people complain about the price but most buildings include ammenities that remove costs you might normally have: pools, gym spaces, entertainment areas, etc. You have to give some value to those items.
Trash is generally the only thing included across all properties. If it's an old building that was renovated water is usually included, with heat rarely if ever included. New construction is always all utilities on you.

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