OFFICIAL - Apex on Quality Hill (10th & Jefferson)
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OFFICIAL - Apex on Quality Hill (10th & Jefferson)
Found another permit for a project on Quality Hill.
This one rezones 3 parcels just to the north of HNTB as residential. The parcels comprise the entire block as seen on this map.
This project also appears to be undertaken by the same Indianapolis company associated with the Summit on Quality Hill project, Cityscape Residential. Here is a link to some of Cityscape Residential's current work.
Permit
Looks like there is one more rezoning permit from these people. The parcels and project name have not appeared on this one yet. This blank permit is what the Apex & Summit project permits looked like on Friday when they came out, so it can change anytime. I will keep following it.
Based on the permits at this point I cannot tell whether this is for a single building or many buildings.
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Downtown Development Map
This one rezones 3 parcels just to the north of HNTB as residential. The parcels comprise the entire block as seen on this map.
This project also appears to be undertaken by the same Indianapolis company associated with the Summit on Quality Hill project, Cityscape Residential. Here is a link to some of Cityscape Residential's current work.
Permit
Looks like there is one more rezoning permit from these people. The parcels and project name have not appeared on this one yet. This blank permit is what the Apex & Summit project permits looked like on Friday when they came out, so it can change anytime. I will keep following it.
Based on the permits at this point I cannot tell whether this is for a single building or many buildings.
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Downtown Development Map
Re: Apex on Quality Hill
Hopefully we are getting Old Town Carmel and not Prairie Lakes
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Re: Apex on Quality Hill
Looks like they're afraid of building anything taller than four stories. Also looks overwhelmingly suburban except for that one building they converted.
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Attended a meeting today on this project. Here are some numbers that were thrown out:
Apex (10th/Jefferson): 130 units
Summit (12th/Jefferson not including the parking lot at the SW corner, but including the SW corner of 12th/Washington) 256 units.
Expecting rents in the $1.50/sq ft range.
We saw some conceptual renderings of the Quality Hill buildings, but no site plan. The building concepts were generic and lacked imagination.
We did see a site plan for the Crossroads project that showed a 5-6 story double-H-shaped (basically) building with a parking garage, swimming pool, grassy area, etc. Some surface parking, though most of it will be built under Pennway/Broadway overpass.
There were no unit numbers mentioned on the Crossroads project. It had a very Market Station vibe about it (albeit taller). I think the development is great considering the site. It is a no man's land.
There will be no mixed-use component to any of the developments.
The developer touted his love for KC by talking about the 3,500 units his company has developed in Joco (including two developments at Prairiefire!) and Eastern Jackson County.
Questions?
Apex (10th/Jefferson): 130 units
Summit (12th/Jefferson not including the parking lot at the SW corner, but including the SW corner of 12th/Washington) 256 units.
Expecting rents in the $1.50/sq ft range.
We saw some conceptual renderings of the Quality Hill buildings, but no site plan. The building concepts were generic and lacked imagination.
We did see a site plan for the Crossroads project that showed a 5-6 story double-H-shaped (basically) building with a parking garage, swimming pool, grassy area, etc. Some surface parking, though most of it will be built under Pennway/Broadway overpass.
There were no unit numbers mentioned on the Crossroads project. It had a very Market Station vibe about it (albeit taller). I think the development is great considering the site. It is a no man's land.
There will be no mixed-use component to any of the developments.
The developer touted his love for KC by talking about the 3,500 units his company has developed in Joco (including two developments at Prairiefire!) and Eastern Jackson County.
Questions?
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273 units for the westside/crossroads project, i added that info to that thread: http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=19449
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Here is a rough outline of the parcels included in this project.
ALSO: I wonder if we shouldn't merge all three of these projects into one Cityscape thread? Rather than continuing to make three separate posts?
ALSO: I wonder if we shouldn't merge all three of these projects into one Cityscape thread? Rather than continuing to make three separate posts?
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Re: Apex on Quality Hill
These (this one and the one in the Summit thread) are the renderings shown in the meeting I attended.
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^ to my eye, it looks like Apex & Summit projects are using identical building types. The rendering for Summit showing the front and the Apex rendering above showing the back.
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Good point. I'm not sure either rendering is actually tied to the site at this point, but looking at them one is clearly the back, the other the front of the same building.Critical_Mass wrote:^ to my eye, it looks like Apex & Summit projects are using identical building types. The rendering for Summit showing the front and the Apex rendering above showing the back.
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the presentation we saw showed two separate renderings for apex and summit. the developer indicated one of the two was more of a reference to what existed there before.
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There were two renderings, but I think Critical_Mass is right that it is basically the front and back of the same building.DaveKCMO wrote:the presentation we saw showed two separate renderings for apex and summit. the developer indicated one of the two was more of a reference to what existed there before.
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Re: Apex on Quality Hill
Not really a fan.
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I believe the expression is 'ham-fisted'. The facade's acceptable, but how it hits the ground and the site planning is just really poor.mgh7676 wrote:Not really a fan.
No doubt the first thing people will ask when being marketed this vibrant, urban lifestyle is "what about the parking"?
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I don't understand the drawing...is that street suppose to be Jefferson? Or is it mid-block parking? Either way, it really fails to fit into the quaintness of the neighborhood. Quality Hill is one of my favorite walkable neighborhoods in the city...this just looks like what could be a fairly urban building built into a suburban style landscape.
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I'm sure it has some New York style amenities.Worn Copy wrote:I believe the expression is 'ham-fisted'. The facade's acceptable, but how it hits the ground and the site planning is just really poor.mgh7676 wrote:Not really a fan.
No doubt the first thing people will ask when being marketed this vibrant, urban lifestyle is "what about the parking"?
Pushing the first floor up 6' is a huge missed opportunity to have some actual ground-level activity, instead of a double loaded parking lot. Fairly sure someone thought that giving people access at ground level was a security risk.
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Zing!chaglang wrote: I'm sure it has some New York style amenities.
Ugh. You're probably right...read some Oscar Newman, people!!!chaglang wrote: Pushing the first floor up 6' is a huge missed opportunity to have some actual ground-level activity, instead of a double loaded parking lot. Fairly sure someone thought that giving people access at ground level was a security risk.
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I think it is mid block parking. It won't be much better on the Jefferson facing side though.mgh7676 wrote:I don't understand the drawing...is that street suppose to be Jefferson? Or is it mid-block parking? Either way, it really fails to fit into the quaintness of the neighborhood. Quality Hill is one of my favorite walkable neighborhoods in the city...this just looks like what could be a fairly urban building built into a suburban style landscape.