OFFICIAL - Courtyard/Residence Inn Marriott (16th & Baltimore)

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OFFICIAL - Courtyard/Residence Inn Marriott (16th & Baltimore)

Postby flyingember » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:14 pm

Truman and Baltimore/Main

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/26/44 ... t-new.html

257 rooms
166 parking spots
10 stories (3 taller than the just renovated building on the same block)

no tax incentives

can't tell from the parcel viewer the scope of the project. but there's a large parking lot to work with that's part of two different parcels

this will be a notable change to the downtown skyline from the south. 10 stories is tall for the crossroads right now.

apparently the streetcar had no real impact on the decision. maybe it was the over the top aspect to saying yes on the site, may be impossible to find out for sure.
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Re: OFFICIAL - Courtyard/Residence Inn Marriott (16th & Baltimore)

Postby earthling » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:22 pm

Great news, though sounds like an early proposal. If downtown could attract three more developers like this the net result would be a 1000 room convention hotel with no incentives. KC is better off going after several smaller hotels than one big subsidized one. There is plenty of conference space, no need for a major convention class hotel with more meeting rooms.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Courtyard/Residence Inn Marriott (16th & Baltimore)

Postby kboish » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:24 pm

Development news is dropping daily. 10 stories, so does that mean a crane will be needed? It will be a real sign of the returned momentum once DTKC has several cranes up.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby kboish » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:26 pm

earthling wrote:Great news, though sounds like an early proposal. If downtown could attract three more developers like this the net result would be a 1000 room convention hotel with no incentives. KC is better off going after several smaller hotels than one big subsidized one. There is plenty of conference space, no need for a major convention class hotel with more meeting rooms.


This possibility also gives the city leverage in any on-going negotiations with a potential conventional hotel.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby flyingember » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:27 pm

that won't help the convention business. one thing I've seen is convention planners like dealing with less hotels and bigger blocks. a large hotel gives economy of scale deals and less work to coordinate. transportation to one place, paperwork with one place, etc.

not that we should consider turning down a number of smaller hotels if they want to build. we'll still need the larger scale structures too.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby earthling » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:29 pm

The 190,000 square-foot hotel is expected to be completed by the fall of 2015.


Hmm, so maybe it's more solid than just an early proposal.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby KCMax » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:29 pm

kboish wrote:Development news is dropping daily. 10 stories, so does that mean a crane will be needed? It will be a real sign of the returned momentum once DTKC has several cranes up.


Is this going to mean NIMBY from Crossroads residents? Wasn't there a kerfuffle awhile ago about too many stories in a Crossroads proposed development?

This is fantastic news. Downtown is really back in a big way.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby flyingember » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:31 pm

kboish wrote:Development news is dropping daily. 10 stories, so does that mean a crane will be needed? It will be a real sign of the returned momentum once DTKC has several cranes up.


yes, a crane will be needed unless they want to carry the steal by hand.

I assume you mean a tower crane. and that's painfully hard to figure out without construction experience

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby kcjak » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:44 pm

Is this 'instead of' the hotel proposed for the Freighthouse parking lot a few years ago? I seem to recall it was mentioned as being a dual flag property.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby brewcrew1000 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:54 pm

Looks like this will be the first hotels in Missouri for Chartwell Portfolio. There will now be 3 Residence Inns in a 4 mile stretch of KC

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby MidtownCat » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:59 pm

Stretch should really fight this.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby beautyfromashes » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:03 pm

Does anyone have any ideas on what this building would look like? Does Residence Inn/ Courtyardhave an example of an urban core design?

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby bobbyhawks » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:03 pm

MidtownCat wrote:Stretch should really fight this.

He will probably wait until the cranes are already up to start fighting it, though.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby earthling » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:09 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:Does anyone have any ideas on what this building would look like? Does Residence Inn/ Courtyardhave an example of an urban core design?


Here is a Residence Inn in Vancouver, though nearly 20 floors...
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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby Pork Chop » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:13 pm

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby Pork Chop » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:13 pm

flyingember wrote:Truman and Baltimore/Main

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/26/44 ... t-new.html

257 rooms
166 parking spots
10 stories (3 taller than the just renovated building on the same block)

no tax incentives

can't tell from the parcel viewer the scope of the project. but there's a large parking lot to work with that's part of two different parcels

this will be a notable change to the downtown skyline from the south. 10 stories is tall for the crossroads right now.

apparently the streetcar had no real impact on the decision. maybe it was the over the top aspect to saying yes on the site, may be impossible to find out for sure.


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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby Pork Chop » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:16 pm

bobbyhawks wrote:
MidtownCat wrote:Stretch should really fight this.

He will probably wait until the cranes are already up to start fighting it, though.


:D

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby beautyfromashes » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:18 pm

The downtown Denver RI looks to be about 10 floors and looks nice.

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby pash » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:25 pm

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Re: Crossroads Hotel

Postby earthling » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:28 pm

New CVS downtown? Where?


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