OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby DaveKCMO » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:59 pm

OMG A BUILDING WALL

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:01 pm

^Each building with completely different materials/facades.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby Critical_Mass » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:03 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:OMG A BUILDING WALL

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I can't see my downtown behind all those high-rises!

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:22 pm

^Dave helped make my point. Each building with different building materials/facades in Chicago vs what KC could end up with.... Potentially 4 buildings in a row with about same appearance. A monotone wall.

It's a subjective debate of aesthetics of course and some are just happy to get this amount of needed development so avoid being critical. Good having a healthy debate about what could happen than if nothing is said and developers do whatever is most cost effective for them. Two common compliments about KC's skyline are that it's mixed up and isn't boxy. It might not be too late to influence Three, Four Lights and Convention Hotel to have completely different external material/facades than Two Light as they could source different materials from other projects in other cities for economies of scale.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:21 am

But how much did the glass cost in Dave's pic?

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby flyingember » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:07 am

Look, that wall has three different colors for the buildings.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby DaveKCMO » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:35 pm

my lack of sympathy comes from a belief that more buildings will fill the other empty spots, thus diminishing the "light" impact on the skyline.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:57 pm

Understandable. My take is a general 'no more cookie cutter projects' downtown in general. It will be a re-occurring theme from me for all future projects in the city core. We've allowed enough given how badly downtown has needed development. But the momentum is good enough now to start expecting better than monotony.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby DaveKCMO » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:59 pm

earthling wrote:But the momentum is good enough now to start expecting better than monotony.


absolutely, but i do stand firm that the skyline impact is a lesser part of the equation. one light does an amazing job at the street level, compared to practically everything else built in KC in the last decade or two.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:03 pm

Cordish did a great job at streetlevel and also generally no cookie cutter with the retail buildings. But so far it appears that the residential buildings will lean that way. No harm in trying to sway against a wall of monotony if still possible to sway. I'm not saying don't do the project if not, just can it be swayed to mix things up a bit more with Three/Four lights and if they do Convention Hotel. If no one even suggests it, won't happen.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby moderne » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:35 pm

No one has pointed out that the 2,3,& 4 Lights stairstep in height, reflecting the height differences of the Big 3 postmodern towers lined up directly behind them on 12th St.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby mean » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:50 pm

I hadn't noticed. That's actually kind of neat looking.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby atticus23 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:23 pm

I love this forum! You anonymous people truly entertain me. That being said, I very much respect the passion I read in the posts and the knowledge gained. Now back to that glass; particularly on the new LIVE CONVENTION HOTEL!

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:52 am

^Several got involved with the City maybe because of this site. I'm heading there as the 'cookie cutter police'. You're welcome! :)

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby missingkc » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:18 am

I could do without some of the passion. I wish this site were split in two - one area for news, one for comments.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:32 am

When people don't care, you get a snowball effect of poorer and poorer projects/execution. Developers will do things as cheaply and/or repetitious as possible if no one cares. The passion isn't nearly high enough in KC. KC is often noted for being content with the sub-par. With the momentum and attraction of more developers, now is the time to get more involved.
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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby WoodDraw » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:35 am

The problem is more that we're talking in circles in two different threads about this. All of our views have been stated, and now it's basically more of a "you hang up, no you hang up" exchange between everyone.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:39 am

Yeah nearly every emotional or hot thread does that for the most part but that is the case with any forum anywhere on any topic. Airport thread constantly goes in circles, probably the hottest topic, and it should! (I intentionally re-state same point as many appear to do, can step it down a notch).

Notice that when topics get hot, the forum overall becomes much more active.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby WoodDraw » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 pm

Which is why the airport thread has become hard to read as well. :) There are only like 12 people that regularly post here. We all know each other's position.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby JBmidtown » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:46 pm

WoodDraw wrote:Which is why the airport thread has become hard to read as well. :) There are only like 12 people that regularly post here. We all know each other's position.


Pfft nuh uh, no one knows my position.


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