OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby KCPowercat » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:22 am

Maybe they bought too much glass so offered it up in exchange for throwing that shitty Live! thing on the hotel?

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby NorthOak » Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:04 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:03 am

So potentially a wall of 4 buildings with directionally approximately the same facades in front of downtown skyline. It could be mixed up with completely different designs with entirely different building materials and can only happen if those of us who can see this potential monotony speak up now. But apparently many here are content with whatever is most convenient for the developer (and they'll get away with cookie cutter leaning developments if the public doesn't care). A lot of comments from people who like KC's skyline is that is it very mixed up.

Picture 4th building with potentially same glass/building materials as these 3. Then picture each building looking unique with completely different building material/facades for each.
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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby joshmv » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:17 am

Please use Imgur, I tried with 2 browsers on my iPhone and still can't see the image because of ads that can't be closed.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:18 am

^It's not my pic, someone else posted in another thread. The link doesn't work for you either?

I've just posted it somewhere else, if owner of pic doesn't want that I'll take it down, refresh and try again.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby joshmv » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:24 am

earthling wrote:^It's not my pic, someone else posted in another thread. The link doesn't work for you either?


Ya it just goes to photobucket and puts a big ad in front that can't be closed for some reason. I'm sure I'll see it later when I'm on my desktop but photobucket has definitely gone downhill.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:26 am

^Refresh again.

Imagine a 4th building to the left with approximately same external building materials. Then imagine each building entirely unique designs with entirely different external building materials.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:52 am

Imagine something like this replacing a wall of 4 buildings leaning towards the same appearance. Not suggesting these particular designs but the notion of having 4 completely different buildings with different external materials...

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Of course the one on the far right of skyline will be the current Two Light.

Thoughts?

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby ldai_phs » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:14 pm

earthling wrote:^Refresh again.

Imagine a 4th building to the left with approximately same external building materials. Then imagine each building entirely unique designs with entirely different external building materials.

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Let's also not forget to imagine how new buildings going up in the cross roads may end up blocking out part of the "wall"

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:21 pm

Maybe in 10 years, maybe in 50. Xroads might have very little if any hirise development long term. There are still large lots open in the loop, like 8th/Wyandotte area more suitable for hirise. So you are ok with 4 in a row approximately the same vs mixing it up per the above? The cookie cutter wall could possibly be avoided if speaking up now.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby ldai_phs » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:26 pm

earthling wrote:Maybe in 10 years, maybe in 50. Xroads might have very little if any hirise development long term. So you are ok with 4 in a row approximately the same vs mixing it up per the above? The cookie cutter wall could possibly be avoided if speaking up now.

Oh no. I totally agree that they should mix it up. But I think that some mid sized buildings in Crossroads will help to recreate a more natural stepped feeling. Which would make it look better. But I do think thy should try to mix it up.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby NorthOak » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:09 pm

earthling wrote:^It's not my pic, someone else posted in another thread. The link doesn't work for you either?
I've just posted it somewhere else, if owner of pic doesn't want that I'll take it down, refresh and try again.


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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby NorthOak » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:13 pm

Don't forget that on the left of these (west) 3 towers there is going to be another blocky, glass, -23+ floor hotel that will complete the front "wall." I'm in no position to judge but I do hope the decision-makers keep all of these things in mind when planning Three and Four Light.
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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby earthling » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:16 pm

^Right, that's what I was indicating, another 4th building to the left of your rendering that will be convention hotel with potentially same/similar glass/material feel - potentially an even longer monotone wall. And thanks for letting me re-host your pic. But why are you in no position to judge? It's our city and these projects are getting city aid. If you want better, speak up.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby miz.jordan17 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:01 am

What could CFRG possibly be able to sue the developers/city for now?

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby flyingember » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:30 am

NorthOak wrote:Don't forget that on the left of these (west) 3 towers there is going to be another blocky, glass, -23+ floor hotel that will complete the front "wall." I'm in no position to judge but I do hope the decision-makers keep all of these things in mind when planning Three and Four Light.

Four Light will have a half block gap in between it and Three Light.

It also will be turned 90 degrees.

So not exactly the same as a wall.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby KCTOGA » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:50 pm

miz.jordan17 wrote:What could CFRG possibly be able to sue the developers/city for now?

Building the sidewalk to close to their ass? :evil:

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby hartliss » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:16 pm

miz.jordan17 wrote:What could CFRG possibly be able to sue the developers/city for now?


Well, in today's society you can sue for just about anything...so it probably depends on who their lawyer is and what they think will create the most harm to the project. It is too bad as CFRG is anti- just about everything....

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby pash » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:45 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Postby NorthOak » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:48 pm

flyingember wrote:
NorthOak wrote:Don't forget that on the left of these (west) 3 towers there is going to be another blocky, glass, -23+ floor hotel that will complete the front "wall." I'm in no position to judge but I do hope the decision-makers keep all of these things in mind when planning Three and Four Light.

Four Light will have a half block gap in between it and Three Light.

It also will be turned 90 degrees.

So not exactly the same as a wall.


What the hell are you talking about?
It's exactly as I stated, a wall on the south side.

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