OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by beautyfromashes » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:30 am

Those new translucent purple buildings look awesome!

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by PumpkinStalker » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:31 am

FangKC wrote:I wonder if people complained when the sight-lines were obstructed for the New York Life Building?

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But can we talk more about the "Ladie's Entrance" behind the Hotel Cosby? What's the scoop on that? Was it commonplace in those days that the women folk wouldn't go into the main entrance with the men folk?

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by earthling » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:57 am

All ladies or 'ladies of the night'. I suspect the latter.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by NorthOak » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:46 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:Those new translucent purple buildings look awesome!
They should, I had you in mind when I picked the color :mrgreen:
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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by wahoowa » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:48 pm

probably all ladies. here is a 1914 newspaper from chicago hinting at some of the issues relating to these entrances — pretty hard to read even zoomed in, but appears to be a marketing ploy that at least in some instances may have been used in a misleading (sinister?) way

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1914 ... tion-urged

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by JLowe2018 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:53 pm

In the city council's business session today, Mike Burke noted about the new rendering that it is "bound to change" and is as roughly accurate as they have now. They will come back to the city when they have their nearly final design.

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Re: Convention hotel proposal for P&L building (and surrounding block)

Post by normalthings » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:06 am

KCMax wrote:Image
When thinking about the convention hotel design,Remeber it could have been worse. We could have had this instead.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by mister816 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:33 pm

ldai_phs wrote:
KCMax wrote:Image
When thinking about the convention hotel design,Remeber it could have been worse. We could have had this instead.
This design is FAR better than the Hyatt Medical Center.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by normalthings » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:29 pm

mister816 wrote:
ldai_phs wrote:
KCMax wrote:Image
When thinking about the convention hotel design,Remeber it could have been worse. We could have had this instead.
This design is FAR better than the Hyatt Medical Center.
But people still complained about the other plans design too. What I was getting at is people will never be happy about the design, but a focus on good ground floor/Walk ability is something everyone can agree on.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by kcexpress » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:13 pm

Personally, I think a taller, skinnier building would be less obstructive than a shorter, wider one. I liked the original design much better. I hate the idea that, after 25 years of trying to land a state of the art convention center hotel, this this the best "cost cutting " design that they could come up with!! Oh well, it is what it is, I guess. We need more conventions, so if this helps land bigger and better ones with more revenue, then I guess I'll take it. Disappointing, though!!

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by beautyfromashes » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:10 pm

I think the new design meets the needs of conventions. The problem I would see is that it might not meet the needs of a good part of the basic tourist market. I would think it wouldn't be the first choice for a couple wanting to come DT for a nice dinner or P&L district and spend the night in a sexy hotel. If 'business traveler' is the only market you're trying to tap, it will get the job done.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by earthling » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:49 am

Biz Journal pic on KC tourism, hotels, AirBNB stats..
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... -city.html

PDF of pic easy to zoom...
https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10293752/roomstogrow.pdf

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by kcjak » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:08 am

Would've been nice to see a graphic with the number of rooms listed next to each new hotel, as well as current number of rooms downtown versus proposed.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by TheBigChuckbowski » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:29 pm

I'm hoping they just wanted a new rendering for the city council and so they just pulled some generic looking building with the right dimensions. It sounds like it's going to change so I'm being optimistic.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by UrbanKC » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:09 am

TheBigChuckbowski wrote:I'm hoping they just wanted a new rendering for the city council and so they just pulled some generic looking building with the right dimensions. It sounds like it's going to change so I'm being optimistic.
I'd guess that maybe they are also figuring in cost. Given the nature of this project, I seriously doubt we will be getting a landmark building unless Hyatt is willing to shell out a lot of extra money for it.

Landmark buildings and public projects don't really come hand-in-hand in the United States these days.

Recent Hyatt projects in the United States, excluding NYC & Chicago:

Hyatt Place, Denver, CO; 248 rooms
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Hyatt Regency, Bellevue, WA; 732 rooms
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Grand Hyatt, San Antonio, TX; 1,003 rooms
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Grand Hyatt, Seattle, WA; 457 rooms
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I'd be looking for something more similar to those designs, rather than a taller, more landmark, unique design.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by KCPowercat » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:19 pm

Those are all hideous

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by aknowledgeableperson » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:10 pm

First it was suppose to be a 1,000 room hotel. Now it is 800 rooms. Something tells me a lot of this has to do with the economics of the proposal. Think you will have something rather generic to keep costs down. And maybe a further reduction in rooms considering the number of rooms recently opened and those on-line to open.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by UrbanKC » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:45 pm

KCPowercat wrote:Those are all hideous
Yeah...

A few more recent hotels built in the US... non-Hyatt..


Convention Hotel; Tacoma, WA, 300 rooms, currently a concept
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Hotel ZaZa; Austin, TX, under construction
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Hilton Events Center Hotel; Des Moines, IA, under construction
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Omni Hotel; Nashville, TN
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Embassy Suites; Denver, CO
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Hotel Indigo; Asheville, NC
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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by JBmidtown » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:26 pm

So...convention hotels built in the 2010s are just ugly in general.

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Re: New Convention Hotel

Post by flyingember » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:52 am

JBmidtown wrote:So...convention hotels built in the 2010s are just ugly in general.
In other words, you don't like post modernism designs

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