Amenities missing from downtown

Issues concerning Downtown as described by the Downtown Council. River to 31st Street, I-35 to Bruce R. Watkins.
Post Reply
User avatar
KCPowercat
Power & Light
Power & Light
Posts: 28562
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 12:49 pm
Location: Quality Hill
Contact:

Amenities missing from downtown

Post by KCPowercat » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:45 am

What are we missing?

I'll start. Doughnut shop. I wanted to get some for my office on the walk in this am and there are really zero options.

What else?

User avatar
Volker Dad
Pad site
Pad site
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:00 pm
Location: Central Hyde

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by Volker Dad » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:48 am

I wish there was a taco truck making the rounds everyday at lunch.

I also wish there was a good BBQ joint in the loop.

User avatar
KCMax
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 24051
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:31 pm
Location: The basement of a Ross Dress for Less
Contact:

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by KCMax » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:20 am

Bookstore, although those are dying out everywhere.

Frozen yogurt place. Geez, those things are everywhere now. I guess Sheridan's in CC counts.

User avatar
KC-wildcat
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3528
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:54 am
Location: UMKC Law

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by KC-wildcat » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:27 am

Fast food.

I don't eat it, generally, but seems like most downtowns have at least a McDonalds.

brewcrew1000
Penntower
Penntower
Posts: 2164
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:10 am
Location: Broadway/Gilham according to google maps

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by brewcrew1000 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:46 am

A YMCA, good gym

kboish
Penntower
Penntower
Posts: 2316
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: West Plaza

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by kboish » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:17 am

Bike trails/lanes

User avatar
Volker Dad
Pad site
Pad site
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:00 pm
Location: Central Hyde

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by Volker Dad » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:16 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:A YMCA, good gym


This would be huge. I thought we were getting a new "Y". Any news?

User avatar
KCPowercat
Power & Light
Power & Light
Posts: 28562
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 12:49 pm
Location: Quality Hill
Contact:

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by KCPowercat » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:40 pm

KC-wildcat wrote:Fast food.

I don't eat it, generally, but seems like most downtowns have at least a McDonalds.


Yeah no mcd is weird. Guess BK bar can get someone's fix.

Need a new urban core mcd franchisee, I know the old one in ccs was convinced he needed a drive through.

User avatar
KC-wildcat
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3528
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:54 am
Location: UMKC Law

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by KC-wildcat » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:40 pm

KCPowercat wrote:
KC-wildcat wrote:Fast food.

I don't eat it, generally, but seems like most downtowns have at least a McDonalds.


Yeah no mcd is weird. Guess BK bar can get someone's fix.

Need a new urban core mcd franchisee, I know the old one in ccs was convinced he needed a drive through.


In reality, though, a foodcourt McDs franchise can't do very well, considering other McDs are 24-7 operations. plenty of space for drivethroughs in the downtown area, though.

bobbyhawks
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:19 pm

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by bobbyhawks » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:13 pm

KC-wildcat wrote:In reality, though, a foodcourt McDs franchise can't do very well, considering other McDs are 24-7 operations. plenty of space for drivethroughs in the downtown area, though.

A White Castle or In 'N Out Burger in the vacant lot at 13th and Baltimore would slay. That land is probably too expensive, but there are good places all over the loop.

User avatar
KCPowercat
Power & Light
Power & Light
Posts: 28562
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 12:49 pm
Location: Quality Hill
Contact:

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by KCPowercat » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:13 pm

Food court I agree... Street front w/o drive through I see work all over the country.

Can we at least try to have some semblance of an urban built environment. Not everything needs a drive through.

flyingember
One Park Place
One Park Place
Posts: 6663
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:54 am

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by flyingember » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:19 pm

never forget to remember that more people = more kids and teenagers too.

Target. they have a store in downtown Minneapolis.
electronics sales.
An office shop like a staples.
UPS. I find it strange fedex is downtown but the closest UPS store is at the Plaza
more cell phone stores. Verizon is at Linwood, AT&T at Westport.
mid-range clothing. like a JC Penny, Men's Warehouse and a Gap at least.
sporting goods. there's a couple bike shops but something more generic would be nice
bank branches open on Saturday
better library hours. the downtown branch closes at 5pm which is when parents can take kids...
more gas stations. they will be needed with a population boom even with more transit.
more quick stops. a quick trip without gas could do well in the middle of downtown to complement the CVS
sports facilities. there's a couple baseball fields in bad spots and that's it
parks with modern playgrounds. there's four and they're basically in a line along the bluffs. kid's won't walk far for a park
churches. they're less numerous downtown than other places. a lot of people won't move far from their denomination
a city community center

User avatar
chaglang
Hotel President
Hotel President
Posts: 3278
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:44 pm

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by chaglang » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:45 pm

A City Sports would be great, even for midtown. Right now I have to drive from Linwood & Troost to the Dick's in Ward Parkway, which is ridiculous. Also, a Gary Gribble's in the River Market seems like a no-brainer.

User avatar
Demosthenes
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:50 pm
Location: CBD

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by Demosthenes » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:14 pm

Bookstore

earthling
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 4471
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:27 pm

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by earthling » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:57 pm

^That. One that has a kitchen with regular cooking classes, including from chefs who release a book. A full bar that does wine or single malt tastings and a coffee bar that is integrated with the bookstore, not a separate section. A place with a sense of a regular gathering space that makes it worth going 1-3 times a week. Or just a regular one.

bobbyhawks
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:19 pm

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by bobbyhawks » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:41 am

earthling wrote:^That. One that has a kitchen with regular cooking classes, including from chefs who release a book. A full bar that does wine or single malt tastings and a coffee bar that is integrated with the bookstore, not a separate section. A place with a sense of a regular gathering space that makes it worth going 1-3 times a week. Or just a regular one.

If you are interested in the occasional scotch tasting, I suggest you check out Cellar and Loft. Their stuff isn't exactly priced on the low end, but the number of wine, beer, and booze tastings for club members is amazing.

flyingember
One Park Place
One Park Place
Posts: 6663
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:54 am

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by flyingember » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:00 am

downtown needs more daycares. the area will never get young families without this

brewcrew1000
Penntower
Penntower
Posts: 2164
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:10 am
Location: Broadway/Gilham according to google maps

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by brewcrew1000 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:39 am

^Agreed. Union Hill Day School pretty much has a monopoly on urban core daycares

User avatar
KC-wildcat
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3528
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:54 am
Location: UMKC Law

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by KC-wildcat » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:47 am

KCPowercat wrote:
Can we at least try to have some semblance of an urban built environment. Not everything needs a drive through.


I'm looking at it from the perspective of a franchisee. Assuming McDs w/ drivethroughs perform better than those w/o, I'd rather own a franchise on a highway exit than in the base of an office building.

lock+load
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 4199
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:25 am
Location: brookside

Re: Amenities missing from downtown

Post by lock+load » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:09 pm

KC-wildcat wrote:
KCPowercat wrote:
Can we at least try to have some semblance of an urban built environment. Not everything needs a drive through.


I'm looking at it from the perspective of a franchisee. Assuming McDs w/ drivethroughs perform better than those w/o, I'd rather own a franchise on a highway exit than in the base of an office building.


But there are only so many franchises available. If the only option is a non drive through location downtown, and it could still be profitable, why not?

Post Reply