renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this?

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:38 pm

kevin confirms the lane will not be demolished for this project. i can confirm that the interior has been cleaned and false walls removed in the last month. the cleaning crew indicated it might be made available for lease, which is very good news.

the streetcar project team is required to locate an office on the alignment. the lane would be perfect for that.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby FangKC » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:46 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:kevin confirms the lane will not be demolished for this project. i can confirm that the interior has been cleaned and false walls removed in the last month. the cleaning crew indicated it might be made available for lease, which is very good news.

the streetcar project team is required to locate an office on the alignment. the lane would be perfect for that.


I'd rather have a groovy coffee bar where they have poetry readings given by bald-headed lesbians than your freaky streetcar office Dave. :-P

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby loftguy » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:53 pm

FangKC wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:kevin confirms the lane will not be demolished for this project. i can confirm that the interior has been cleaned and false walls removed in the last month. the cleaning crew indicated it might be made available for lease, which is very good news.

the streetcar project team is required to locate an office on the alignment. the lane would be perfect for that.


I'd rather have a groovy coffee bar where they have poetry readings given by bald-headed lesbians than your freaky streetcar office Dave. :-P


I would offer a compromise....merge the two uses.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby FangKC » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:54 pm

Loftguy to the rescue. :D

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:55 pm

until a single coffee house can muster staying open past 6pm, we don't need any more of them downtown.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby pash » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:56 pm

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:59 pm

kboish wrote:he says between 16th and Truman on Baltimore...if thats the case it must be across the street from Sportings new office b/c if it is next to the offices as he states, then it would be a very, very small spot for a garage, 10 floors, and 250+ rooms.


it has to be next to sporting, since those parcels are the ones owned by the weiner family (of christmas tree fame). the city owns the large lot across baltimore.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby FangKC » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:05 pm

Dave, are the Weiner properties those that are painted yellow?

The Star needs to publish a graphic map showing the footprint of this new hotel project on that block.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.094581,-94.584939&spn=0.000006,0.003058&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.094576,-94.584819&panoid=N3cmWX_ddRixnhQkN8XkVA&cbp=12,50.11,,0,-3.79

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby kboish » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:12 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
kboish wrote:he says between 16th and Truman on Baltimore...if thats the case it must be across the street from Sportings new office b/c if it is next to the offices as he states, then it would be a very, very small spot for a garage, 10 floors, and 250+ rooms.


it has to be next to sporting, since those parcels are the ones owned by the weiner family (of christmas tree fame). the city owns the large lot across baltimore.


So its to the South? Along 16th street?

FangKC wrote:The Star needs to publish a graphic map showing the footprint of this new hotel project on that block


Yes please.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby FangKC » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:24 pm

Ok, I've been doing some searching of land parcels on the City's KIVA site, and it does appear the yellow buildings fronting Baltimore and Main are owned by the Larry Weiner through these companies, Adjunct Properties, and NLS Realty Co.

I also found that the City vacated the alley between Main and Baltimore from Truman to 16th Street, which I'm guessing frees up the property owner to build on/over the former alley.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcityclerk.kcmo.org%2Fliveweb%2FDocuments%2FViewAttachment.aspx%3Fq%3DlBHvZEukzHYnMMNDuqUKGGM1EWINPy1Iaq54H3320eBbCtOGRUF8WZ2O4SN39L1pFm5xd0Up7badpHKzNrUjRA%253D%253D&ei=_bcbUvL7NqnQ2QXnzoGIDA&usg=AFQjCNEf-0o7ND6bliQ8gr-aLK6vV9O1Rg&sig2=CCHkylMydz0zJQCpRqBZqg

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby FangKC » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:53 pm

Kevin Collison ‏@kckansascity
Setting record straight..Lane Blueprint building would NOT be demolished for this hotel plan..it's fate is controlled by Sporting Innovation

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby shinatoo » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:59 pm

Was that Prestige Motors the original Studebaker Dealership?
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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby FangKC » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:04 pm

It was the Allied Motors Chrysler Plymouth dealership in the 1950s says the public library database.

http://kchistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/Montgomery&CISOPTR=4019&CISOBOX=1&REC=2

The Studebaker dealership was up the street in the former Armacost building on the SE corner of 14th and Baltimore next to the Mainstreet Theater.

http://kchistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/Montgomery&CISOPTR=4020&CISOBOX=1&REC=2

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:21 pm

the city technically abandoned the alley between main and baltimore, but they'll have to keep it open for utility easements.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby Pork Chop » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:49 pm

If Sporting Innovations was originally thinking of demolishing Lane for parking purposes (not sure if that was the case or not), I
wonder if they can work with the new hotel developer to increase the amount of parking spaces in the garage to accommodate
Sporting Innovations and whatever other development can occur on the block i.e. to the north of the Lane building.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:58 pm

the original plan was for the hotel to take up the entire block, minus the hanna building. there wasn't a specific conversation about needing the lane for parking. i assume, however, that whatever they build will have enough parking for hanna, lane, and the hotels.

so, yeah, no incentives, but sporting innovations took advantage of an enhanced enterprise zone. i know little about that tool, so not sure if it could be applied to a hotel.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby FangKC » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:09 pm

Isn't Sporting Innovations planning to eventually build a new building attached to the Hanna Building, but facing Truman and Main?

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:14 pm

FangKC wrote:Isn't Sporting Innovations planning to eventually build a new building attached to the Hanna Building, but facing Truman and Main?


that was in early renderings, but without a tenant lined up i suspect they'll be handing that parcel over to this project. don't know for sure, though.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:48 pm

channel 41 reports this detail:

The "L-shaped" facility also includes a 69,000 sq. ft. garage.

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Re: renovate hanna, demolish lane... are we still doing this

Postby KCPowercat » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:44 pm

So what is S.I. going to do with the NE corner?


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