Make Grand Grand

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon May 16, 2016 9:20 am

modot pledged to downtown stakeholders to match the replaced bridge as closely to the new main street bridge as possible. procurement will be design/bid/build.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby beautyfromashes » Mon May 16, 2016 10:15 am

Any way we can leverage this to cap the loop? Will creating these separate bridges remove the possibility of having the design that we want in the future when it is capped?

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby aknowledgeableperson » Mon May 16, 2016 10:33 am

Just look at MODOT's timetable. Better move fast with a plan.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon May 16, 2016 1:49 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:Any way we can leverage this to cap the loop? Will creating these separate bridges remove the possibility of having the design that we want in the future when it is capped?


the best we can hope for is that it doesn't hinder the lid plan. we'll probably get wider sidewalks and and added noise abatement (two key improvements made to the main street bridge over the rest in the south loop).

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby mykn » Mon May 16, 2016 2:10 pm

Could we get them to make the bridge wider? Like, maybe 300-something feet on both sides wider? Then cover it with grass or buildings?

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby loftguy » Tue May 17, 2016 12:38 pm

mykn wrote:Could we get them to make the bridge wider? Like, maybe 300-something feet on both sides wider? Then cover it with grass or buildings?


this.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri May 20, 2016 4:30 pm

the downtown loop project (including grand bike lanes) is finally out for bid.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:03 am

https://bikewalkkc.org/blog/2016/06/adv ... placement/

By now you have probably heard that the Grand Avenue bridge over I-670 is slated for emergency replacement this summer. You may also be aware of Grand’s significance as a key bike, pedestrian and transit corridor across greater downtown KCMO — buffered bike lanes will soon run a significant length of Grand.

Mid America Regional Council is taking public comments on the design of the new bridge.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:02 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:the downtown loop project (including grand bike lanes) is finally out for bid.


a single bidder, and it was over budget. a lot over. stay tuned...

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Re: Make Grand Grand

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:58 am

entire project supposedly put back out to bid, but haven't been able to confirm first hand. not gonna happen this year, regardless.

lessons: don't use federal funds for paint, find a competent project manager, you can't (and shouldn't) please everyone.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby Eon Blue » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:29 am

None of this makes me optimistic for what the Paseo project or the Northeast projects will look like.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby flyingember » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:37 am

Eon Blue wrote:None of this makes me optimistic for what the Paseo project or the Northeast projects will look like.


It sells coordinating with repaving projects and road diets rather than just trying to paint separately.

Need to repaint then anyways so piggyback on the necessary cost and make it happen.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:34 am

the old bridge is down. contractor says they're still on track for reopening 670 by monday rush hour, despite last night's heavy rains.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby taxi » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:56 am

I really love those rebar hairballs.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby FangKC » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:01 pm

They should put one on the roof of the Cosentino's garage in that park next to the boxcar--to appear like a large tumbleweed.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby FangKC » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:03 pm

Did MDOT already have a new bridge replacement design approved for Grand before the cracks appeared that required this emergency demolition? Or will they have to quickly put in a standard generic bridge quickly?

The reason I ask is will the new bridge be enhanced to improve the pedestrian experience (wider sidewalks, art, better screens/walls, landscaping)?

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby shinatoo » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:51 pm

No. Yes. Yes.
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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby hgascoigne » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:52 am

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 84967.html

The highway department and the city of Kansas City said the new Grand bridge will include bike paths and wider sidewalks.

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Re: Make Grand Grand

Postby earthling » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:55 am

Putting a bike path down Grand, with among the busiest car traffic through downtown, is the opposite of common sense. Walnut makes much more sense for bike path.


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