Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Issues concerning Downtown as described by the Downtown Council. River to 31st Street, I-35 to Bruce R. Watkins.
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by scooterj » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:41 pm

enough wrote:i think this point came up months ago, but as the city continues to install the new illuminated street name signs on traffic signal mast arms, if you're a pedestrian walking against the flow of motorized traffic on a one-way street you won't see street name signs for the cross streets.


Yeah, it's frustrating tying to give directions to pedestrians who are walking against the one-way.  "Go about X blocks to Y street, you'll need to turn around and look up high to see the sign and know for sure..."
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by KCPowercat » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:52 pm

Wow...yeah never thought about that. Public works definately needs some alternative transportation voices.
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by scooterj » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:24 pm

What's irritating is that they took down the signs that were at pedestrian level at the same time they installed the new signs.   These old signs were on different poles.    So they actually went out of their way and spent more money to make things harder on pedestrians.

Someone should sic The Watchdog on it.  (I would but I've done it so many times for other things I'm sure they'd just roll their eyes and skip to the next email. :) )
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by AllThingsKC » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:42 am

Here is some good news!  Just in time for the opening of the PAC.
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:57 am

The next car or bus who damn near clips my heel as I finish crossing the intersection so they can turn right is going to get a dress shoe in their headlight.

In that note, you see me coming to cross, yet you try and cut your stop short at the sign to beat me across. Listen while its 12 degrees out, think you can give me the courtesy of going first or does Johnny dare have you in such hysterics you can't wait to get to work? 
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by smh » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:01 am

KCPowercat wrote:The next car or bus who damn near clips my heel as I finish crossing the intersection so they can turn right is going to get a dress shoe in their headlight.

In that note, you see me coming to cross, yet you try and cut your stop short at the sign to beat me across. Listen while its 12 degrees out, think you can give me the courtesy of going first or does Johnny dare have you in such hysterics you can't wait to get to work? 


Ha! So true. In a similar vein: this morning I was walking from Downtown to RM and friendly person in an SUV stopped and asked if I needed a ride. I was speechless. I was suited-up appropriately for the walk--I was just baffled as to why you'd assume that someone walking--in the city--needed a ride. It alternately irritated me/cracked me up.
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by moderne » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:45 am

I was somewhat surprised about the overpass announcement, it might seem that it would have been postponed in light of discussions about expanding Bartle over that area and the height and engineering impacts of that expansion.

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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:57 am

True....I would guess the engineering firm would be given that as one of the requirements in their design.
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by FangKC » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:44 pm

The Broadway Bridge is to be replaced with wider sidewalks--starting in May 2011 and finishing in September.

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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by KCPowercat » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:20 pm

The city works director cracks me up in this article:

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/29/26 ... p-the.html
?People shouldn?t have to always make requests,? Gagnon said.
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by KCMax » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:49 pm

Kansas City metro is among the top 20 most dangerous areas for walking
The group Transportation for America ranked the 52 largest metro areas in the country. They calculated a ?Pedestrian Danger Index? based on the average number of pedestrian deaths per 100,000 people and the percent of people who walk to work.
The article says NYC is "surprisingly" the safest. That doesn't surprise me in the least. Why the heck would it be surprising?
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by ContainsHotLiquid » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:55 pm

In DC, Philly, and NY, the jobs aren't necessarily in walking distance of affordable places to live.

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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by DaveKCMO » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:40 am

KCMax wrote: The article says NYC is "surprisingly" the safest. That doesn't surprise me in the least. Why the heck would it be surprising?
NYC has had some very high profile pedestrian fatalities (trucks & cop cars smashing children/grannies on the sidewalk, etc). in KC it's more like pedestrians getting hit while simply crossing the street -- OMG what are they doing there! -- which ends up being fatal because of our high-speed arterials.

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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:54 pm

Cool video showing all (cars, bikes, walkers) have a role in making a safe intersection...

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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by slimwhitman » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:46 am

Even Goofy changes his demeanor when behind the wheel....
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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by DaveKCMO » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:52 am

public works has a new policy that requires a pedestrian walk signal appear automatically at all intersections, city-wide, unless they meet certain criteria. once the policy is made public, i'll post it.

there is also a new part of the development code that allows creation of a pedestrian overlay, which gives neighborhoods greater leeway in how such things are managed. no one has initiated an overlay yet, so i plan to make the crossroads the first.

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Re: Making downtown more pedestrian friendly

Post by KCPowercat » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:21 am

Woohooo
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