Status and future of the River Market area??

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Last I heard he was aiming to put an office tenant in there.

[KCPowercat]

There is definitely a retail component according to the pending liquor license.

[kboish]

Chris Sally project at 5th and oak on the NW corner

Last I heard he was aiming to put an office tenant in there.

There is definitely a retail component according to the pending liquor license.

You are both correct. From a 2014 article:

The 8,000-square-foot Muehlebach garage will be transformed into office space, which Sally expects to attract creative and tech firms.
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In addition, the site includes two small freight buildings totaling 2,900 square feet. Sally plans to connect the side-by-side buildings with a new 3,500-square-foot courtyard space. He expects them to attract a restaurant and bar operator interested in joining the River Market's thriving culinary scene.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... pment.html

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*everyone shakes hands*

[kboish]

There is definitely a retail component according to the pending liquor license.

And the verdict is....Grocery Store! Nature's Own Organic is opening a downtown location here- 5600 sq ft. Thats great for the RM. The article says this will be the only retail component.

[KCPowercat]

Nice. Just saw that article too.... So no liquor store now? That was in the original plan I thought

[flyingember]

5600 sq ft is a little larger than an average quiktrip.
A CVS runs 10-13k.

So this is more the size of a convenience store than a grocery store.

[kboish]

5600 sq ft is a little larger than an average quiktrip.
A CVS runs 10-13k.

So this is more the size of a convenience store than a grocery store.

Have you been to their midtown location? I imagine it will be about like that (and i wouldn't call that a convenience store. limited offering, but definitely has everything you need)

[earthling]

Would be nice to see Duane Reade (NYC/East Coast) or that type of urban pharmacist/drug store in KC's denser neighborhoods. They are very small but stack the products very high on the shelves, efficiently using the space. Plaza, Westport centers and RM could support one.

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Would be nice to see Duane Reade (NYC/East Coast) or that type of urban pharmacist/drug store in KC's denser neighborhoods. They are very small but stack the products very high on the shelves, efficiently using the space. Plaza, Westport centers and RM could support one.

I still wonder if we might see something like this in the 531 Grand building.

[kboish]

Nice. Just saw that article too.... So no liquor store now? That was in the original plan I thought

Vockrodt is saying on twitter that Nature's Own will sell packaged beer and wine also.

[taxi]

5600 sq ft is a little larger than an average quiktrip.
A CVS runs 10-13k.

So this is more the size of a convenience store than a grocery store.

Have you been to their midtown location? I imagine it will be about like that (and i wouldn't call that a convenience store. limited offering, but definitely has everything you need)

It will be bigger than their Midtown store, and definitely more convenient!

[flyingember]

5600 sq ft is a little larger than an average quiktrip.
A CVS runs 10-13k.

So this is more the size of a convenience store than a grocery store.

Have you been to their midtown location? I imagine it will be about like that (and i wouldn't call that a convenience store. limited offering, but definitely has everything you need)

It will be bigger than their Midtown store, and definitely more convenient!

Just calling it a grocery store will likely get people to think Consentino's and it's not going to be that.

I was talking the scale more than the type of merchandise. Grocery stores are defined by their size so understanding the scale matters. It's not just variety, it's services. You're not fitting a workable grocery store and an on site bakery for custom cakes in that size without sacrificing something else. You won't find a large customer service desk with dry cleaning, lotto, redbox and photo services. You won't find a full sized pharmacy like a CVS because it's smaller than one.

It is what it is and the confusion is there's no good name for grocery stores for scale unless the chain has different names.

Walmart did this with the Supercenter name. You know it's a larger walmart immediately. Walmart Neighborhood Market is/was the name for a groceries focus.
Target has this and changed back.

[KCPowercat]

[smh]

I think this pretty much speaks for us all.

[pash]

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[KCLofts]

More details about the grocery store in this article.

Also announces Structurflex will open their NA HQ in the building as well.

[mister816]

What's this?

New signage up for 5 Wyandotte office development, at NE corner of 5th & Wyandotte, in River Market.

[flyingember]

They own only the lot right on the corner, at least right now. It's a little under 6500 square feet.

And it's inside the 2012 special streetcar zoning. So no commercial parking minimums.

Looks like they're leasing the top three floors at 5k usable space each.
So what's the bottom floor going to be?

[taxi]

So what's the bottom floor going to be?

I heard RD4L.