OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by hubert » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:30 pm

“Would have been nice”

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by ksumb » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:39 pm

This building is........ Something that should have been built in Reno.. but KC got the bait and switch. Reno lucked out... And some firm made money on this... DAMN

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Post by normalthings » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:41 pm

ksumb wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:39 pm
This building is........ Something that should have been built in Reno.. but KC got the bait and switch. Reno lucked out... And some firm made money on this... DAMN
I think we can all agree that this project turned out better as a Loews than it would a Hyatt.

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:45 pm

definitely

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Post by flyingember » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:33 am

ksumb wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:39 pm
This building is........ Something that should have been built in Reno.. but KC got the bait and switch. Reno lucked out... And some firm made money on this... DAMN
I think you're confusing Reno with somewhere else

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Post by DaveKCMO » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:03 pm

It's official: This hotel hates the Crossroads.

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Post by moderne » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:35 am

All of the scores of niches in the surface will be illuminated from below and certainly liven up that end of the block.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by WoodDraw » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:38 pm

Yeah, it looks like it's prepared for lighting. It's not ideal, but could be worse. Landscape and lighting should be fine.

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Post by TheLastGentleman » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:21 pm

I'm just glad it's facing the CBD. The convention area hasn't had a north facing building since municipal auditorium

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:33 pm

2nd tower crane on its way down

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by DaveKCMO » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:10 pm

As I've stated elsewhere, I'm much more concerned about what it looks like at street level. I've yet to see uplit concrete do much for that (see Corrigan garage or the award-winning DST TIF garage at 10th & Wyandotte).

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Post by TheLastGentleman » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:28 pm

A building doesn't need to be completely ringed with retail to be urban. The new york life building has no street level retail or transparency, but it still contributes to the street through architecture and presence. While the convention hotel isn't anywhere near as beautiful, it adds to the neighborhood by filling in an ugly site with a decent looking building.

What could they have realistically done with that portion of the building?

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Post by DaveKCMO » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:56 pm

TheLastGentleman wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:28 pm
A building doesn't need to be completely ringed with retail to be urban. The new york life building has no street level retail or transparency, but it still contributes to the street through architecture and presence. While the convention hotel isn't anywhere near as beautiful, it adds to the neighborhood by filling in an ugly site with a decent looking building.

What could they have realistically done with that portion of the building?
I didn't say retail. There are lots of treatments that aren't slabs of concrete. Your New York Life building example is a good one.

Sure the glass is still half full (pretty pretty from another angle), but the southern and eastern bits facing the Crossroads (and the Kauffman Center!) are harsh. And I haven't even taken up the honkey tube again, which will suck what little life could have been stirred on Wyandotte.

Maybe they'll make it up with landscaping and lighting, but I doubt it.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by TheLastGentleman » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:18 pm

The final finishes won't just be uplit concrete. There will be more going on there than it looks right now

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It's not excellent, sure, but I think it's acceptable. Of course, in my ideal world it would be covered in some sort of ornamentation, but obviously we don't live in that world

Also, this particular skywalk isn't bothering me. There was an article a while back that noted that it would be used by catering staff, which is a logical and important use in this context. It's not going to just be stealing people off the street

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:39 pm

why not make the corner stairs glass for example? I'm over saying this building is built backwards even though it is.

It's far from good from the south which I said from day 1 of the renderings. Completely turns it back to our beautiful performing arts center.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by TheLastGentleman » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:52 pm

It turns its back to our beautiful performing arts center and instead towards our beautiful skyline, and that's great. The Kauffman already faces south, as does the ballroom, and Bartle just has no face. Having a prominent structure facing north into the heart of downtown is far superior in my eyes than yet another facing away.

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