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Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:05 am
by staubio
KCPowercat wrote: All I am saying is the posters are bad in the first place. The discussion of sports might bring that out but that doesn't mean sports topics are 'bad' topics.
Well, sorta. People aren't that rational about sports. There is only so much objective discussion one can have on the topic. Sports rivalries are much bigger, older and more emotional than most any other topic on this board and our region has one of the most contentious set of rivalries anywhere. People fueled by this passion act in ways they wouldn't otherwise act and since there is, as a rule, no right or wrong answer, discussion has to escalate out of control with more and more absurdity and tactics being used.

Thus, an otherwise constructive poster could devolve into madness in a sports forum. The topics are "bad" in that they have the least relevance to the mission of this board and the by far greatest propensity to incite a riot.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:12 pm
by im2kull
So in conclusion, we should all quit talking about this in such a "Matter of fact" type of way, because in reality...there is no right, nor wrong, answer.

Lets leave this thread for future questions/comments about moderation.  We're going nowhere right now.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:20 pm
by Highlander
staubio wrote: Thus, an otherwise constructive poster could devolve into madness in a sports forum. The topics are "bad" in that they have the least relevance to the mission of this board and the by far greatest propensity to incite a riot.
Sports forums can be fun as long as people stick to objective discussion.  When it turns to who's fanbase is smarter/better, I tune out.  Phognet and Tigerboard are two examples of just plain immaturity and I really don't understand why an adult would even want to venture onto those boards (except maybe to get the occasional rumor).  That's why I like this forum because I've found it to be one of the few places where Mizzou/KU/KSU fans can have mostly civil discussions of college sports.  Try to do that on either Phognet or Tigerboard; the discussion (if you can call it that) reaches absurd proportions almost immediately.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:42 pm
by Roanoker
You ought to live in Roanoke, Virginia, where there are no professional teams (well, I guess we do have the minor league Avalanche baseball team), and *everybody* is a Virginia Tech fan. I wonder what any Roanoke forums discuss.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:57 pm
by phxcat
KCPowercat wrote: All I am saying is the posters are bad in the first place. The discussion of sports might bring that out but that doesn't mean sports topics are 'bad' topics.
and, when it comes to contentious topics, people still may get at each other, but I don't think it really carries over.  Everybody changes sides in the politics threads.  Reading the Obama thread, you wouldn't recognize MD's and Metro's stances in the Big XII threads, and the same is true of Chef and JLB.  My point being, that for all the rancor that may go on between two posters on one board, if there is rancor on another, it seems to kind of re-set itself.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:35 am
by LenexatoKCMO
staubio wrote: Sports rivalries are much bigger, older and more emotional than most any other topic on this board
Nah - I think the religion threads take the prize on those criteria.  :D

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:40 am
by mean
We actually managed not long ago to have a nice, long religion thread. I've yet to see a sports thread make it that long!

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:43 am
by LenexatoKCMO
mean wrote: We actually managed not long ago to have a nice, long religion thread. I've yet to see a sports thread make it that long!
The Royals thread is on 240 pages with relatively little rancor - a little spirited debate over particular players but that is usually informed and constructive conversation with no trolling. 

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:52 am
by kcmetro
mean wrote: We actually managed not long ago to have a nice, long religion thread. I've yet to see a sports thread make it that long!
The Big 12 sports threads are really long as well, sprinkled with friendly rivalry talk.  That's how I view it anyway.  I suppose if one's testicles haven't dropped, they may view the comments in the sports threads as confrontational, but in reality it's all in good fun...as it's always been.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:58 pm
by im2kull
kcmetro wrote: ....view the comments in the sports threads as confrontational, but in reality it's all in good fun...as it's always been.
The problem is, that some people like to be factual with their posts in this forum, in every board, while others blatently show how obscured their vision is by certain institutions in posting complete hogwash. 

Example:
Posting 24 different references directly from the Official NCAA 2009 Mens BB Rule Book that clearly spell out a certain set of rules, while One member continues to post in denial that it can't be true!

On another note...We shouldn't give a free pass for the kind of personal attacks that happen in the sports board, even if as you say...
kcmetro wrote: it's all in good fun

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:25 pm
by kcmetro
im2kull wrote: The problem is, that some people like to be factual with their posts in this forum, in every board, while others blatently show how obscured their vision is by certain institutions in posting complete hogwash. 

Example:
Posting 24 different references directly from the Official NCAA 2009 Mens BB Rule Book that clearly spell out a certain set of rules, while One member continues to post in denial that it can't be true!

On another note...We shouldn't give a free pass for the kind of personal attacks that happen in the sports board, even if as you say...
If someone doesn't want to listen to your "facts", so be it.  It's really not something to get upset about.  I've posted facts before, and do you think chef ever acknowledged them?  No, he didn't, but that doesn't bother me.  I certainly wouldn't call for his removal from a message board because he refuses to acknowledge certain facts.  It's really not that difficult to deal with for rational beings.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:29 pm
by chrizow
im2kull wrote: some people like to be factual with their posts in this forum...
...while others lie about being black in order to give their failing arguments more "credibility."  :lol:

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:31 pm
by staubio
I didn't intend for this thread to be a free-for-all of nitpicking each other. Please keep it relatively on topic with discussions or questions about moderation specifically.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:22 pm
by im2kull
Why, or Who, moved the most recent portion of the "2008/09 Big Ten 12 Basketball" Thread to the Dumpster?  We had quite possibly, the two best choices for "POY (Post of the Year)" in that conversation!

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:19 am
by KCMax
I moved it. There was no discussion of the Big 12, just a discussion of a forum member.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:16 pm
by justin8216
AllThingsKC wrote: I would miss 2 of those 5 fourmers.  The other 3 can get lost for all I care (and they kind of already have).
Which two would of you missed?

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:00 pm
by grovester
obviously schugg and anniewarbucks!

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:16 pm
by LenexatoKCMO
I see that the forum does not observe DST.  Right on - stick it to the man.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:09 pm
by bahua
I hate SMF. I really do.

I have to go in and update the time at every change.

Re: Questions / Comments About Moderation

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:22 pm
by dangerboy
DST is an obamacare socialist-fascist plot.  don't do it.