The show me institute is not an unbiased source. The group has an agenda that they are pushing with every article and report. They continue to push this agenda despite often being wrong. ex. Streetcar. Show-Me is an anti urban, anti transit, propaganda machine.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:18 pmAh someone with their hand in the sand you must be related to Sly James.flyingember wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:14 pmWhen has the council done a tax break for the rich? This is just ignorant.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:59 pm Miller isn't a Republican but if you like tax breaks for the rich and pet projects at the expense of taxpayers Jolie is your girl.
The city has a flat 1% e-tax citywide. That's the only income tax at the city level.
On property taxes, the city passed a major property assessment (Go Bond) and it affects the rich with property more than renters.
If anything she's been involved with raising taxes on the rich.
https://showmeinstitute.org/sites/defau ... web2_0.pdf
https://www.goodjobsfirst.org/kansas-ci ... -districts
https://www.kcur.org/post/new-kansas-ci ... t#stream/0
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Attacking other candidates vs making claims for what someone stands for is a great way to turn me off. Made this one easy, thank you.
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Again, maybe we have Russian bots...
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From 2012, three years before she was electedjohnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:18 pmAh someone with their hand in the sand you must be related to Sly James.flyingember wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:14 pmWhen has the council done a tax break for the rich? This is just ignorant.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:59 pm Miller isn't a Republican but if you like tax breaks for the rich and pet projects at the expense of taxpayers Jolie is your girl.
The city has a flat 1% e-tax citywide. That's the only income tax at the city level.
On property taxes, the city passed a major property assessment (Go Bond) and it affects the rich with property more than renters.
If anything she's been involved with raising taxes on the rich.
https://showmeinstitute.org/sites/defau ... web2_0.pdf
"A recent memo addressed to the City Council and Mayor Mark Funkhouser" which would have been 5+ years before she joined the council. It looks like this is from 2012, though all their sources are long dead or clearly 2007-2008 which isn't even about Mayor James
She's not on the TIF commission.
https://www.edckc.com/about-edckc/board-of-directors/
And she's already gone on record as being against the pocesses for one project the commission approved
https://www.thepitchkc.com/news/article ... functional
Nice try. Should actually read your sources.
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I knew someone would come along and discredit the source instead of the claim. I also posted other links showing taxpayer money is going to subsidize the wealthy.normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:44 pmThe show me institute is not an unbiased source. The group has an agenda that they are pushing with every article and report. They continue to push this agenda despite often being wrong. ex. Streetcar. Show-Me is an anti urban, anti transit, propaganda machine.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:18 pmAh someone with their hand in the sand you must be related to Sly James.flyingember wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:14 pm
When has the council done a tax break for the rich? This is just ignorant.
The city has a flat 1% e-tax citywide. That's the only income tax at the city level.
On property taxes, the city passed a major property assessment (Go Bond) and it affects the rich with property more than renters.
If anything she's been involved with raising taxes on the rich.
https://showmeinstitute.org/sites/defau ... web2_0.pdf
https://www.goodjobsfirst.org/kansas-ci ... -districts
https://www.kcur.org/post/new-kansas-ci ... t#stream/0
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I already discredited the claim, you countered with invalid sources. Nice try.
If you're trying to argue against one person, you need to actually have valid reasons out there, not complain about previous mayors Funkhowser or Barnes as a reason to not vote for Justus
If you're trying to argue against one person, you need to actually have valid reasons out there, not complain about previous mayors Funkhowser or Barnes as a reason to not vote for Justus
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That comment was stupid the first time you made it and hasn't gotten any better. You're a corporate welfare whore who's more worried about handing out money like it's nothing to big business instead of other pressing issues that continually haunt this city.
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No you didn't you went on a rant about ShowMeInstitute and gave 1 example of Justus being against TIF.flyingember wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:04 pm I already discredited the claim, you countered with invalid sources. Nice try.
If you're trying to argue against one person, you need to actually have valid reasons out there, not complain about previous mayors Funkhowser or Barnes as a reason to not vote for Justus
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1. Not a dumb comment. Your account is acting as if it’s a troll or bot. You are using misleading or fake sources to prove your points and purposely causing division. Classic Axiom strategies.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:06 pmThat comment was stupid the first time you made it and hasn't gotten any better. You're a corporate welfare whore who's more worried about handing out money like it's nothing to big business instead of other pressing issues that continually haunt this city.
2. No one talks about our streetcar god Dave like that.
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This thread seems dangerously close to ending up here
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Your arguments make no sense. First you falsely claim Miller being a Republican because he has signs on Wardparkway and hired some consulting firm you claim is Republican, yet he has the former Democratic VP campaign for him.normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:17 pm1. Not a dumb comment. Your account is acting as if it’s a troll or bot. You are using misleading or fake sources to prove your points and purposely causing division. Classic Axiom strategies.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:06 pmThat comment was stupid the first time you made it and hasn't gotten any better. You're a corporate welfare whore who's more worried about handing out money like it's nothing to big business instead of other pressing issues that continually haunt this city.
2. No one talks about our streetcar god Dave like that.
KCUR isn't a fake source and Dave is the one who started with the name calling / Religious bigotry.
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I feel like it's more about one poster than it is the entire thread. I like the discussion and general disagreements, but johnmatrix thinks this is 8chan or reddit and needs to come in guns a'blazin'.TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:19 pm This thread seems dangerously close to ending up here
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Were a little more than a month out. it's time to rock the boat.WSPanic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:23 pmI feel like it's more about one poster than it is the entire thread. I like the discussion and general disagreements, but johnmatrix thinks this is 8chan or reddit and needs to come in guns a'blazin'.TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:19 pm This thread seems dangerously close to ending up here
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Boat rocking at the intellectual level you are doing it is actually called poo-flinging. At least, I think that's the technical term.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:26 pmWere a little more than a month out. it's time to rock the boat.WSPanic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:23 pmI feel like it's more about one poster than it is the entire thread. I like the discussion and general disagreements, but johnmatrix thinks this is 8chan or reddit and needs to come in guns a'blazin'.TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:19 pm This thread seems dangerously close to ending up here
Maybe I'm in the minority. Carry on with your "boat rocking". You're not doing your candidate any favors.
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PleaseTheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:19 pm This thread seems dangerously close to ending up here
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I'm not the one name calling I am also undecided but leaning to Phil Glynn.WSPanic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:35 pmBoat rocking at the intellectual level you are doing it is actually called poo-flinging. At least, I think that's the technical term.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:26 pmWere a little more than a month out. it's time to rock the boat.
Maybe I'm in the minority. Carry on with your "boat rocking". You're not doing your candidate any favors.
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I was wondering how long it was going to take for this thread to light on fire. A month until the election...seems about right.
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You are confusing multiple different posters. Plus, I never claimed political affiliation. It doesn’t even matter in this race (to me) as long as someone supports pro urban and pro transit policies - something people of both parties can do.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:22 pmYour arguments make no sense. First you falsely claim Miller being a Republican because he has signs on Wardparkway and hired some consulting firm you claim is Republican, yet he has the former Democratic VP campaign for him.normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:17 pm1. Not a dumb comment. Your account is acting as if it’s a troll or bot. You are using misleading or fake sources to prove your points and purposely causing division. Classic Axiom strategies.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:06 pm
That comment was stupid the first time you made it and hasn't gotten any better. You're a corporate welfare whore who's more worried about handing out money like it's nothing to big business instead of other pressing issues that continually haunt this city.
2. No one talks about our streetcar god Dave like that.
KCUR isn't a fake source and Dave is the one who started with the name calling / Religious bigotry.
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Crime and Infrastructure at the 2 biggest issues.normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:41 pmYou are confusing multiple different posters. Plus, I never claimed political affiliation. It doesn’t even matter in this race as long as someone supports pro urban and transit policies.johnmatrix wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:22 pmYour arguments make no sense. First you falsely claim Miller being a Republican because he has signs on Wardparkway and hired some consulting firm you claim is Republican, yet he has the former Democratic VP campaign for him.normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:17 pm
1. Not a dumb comment. Your account is acting as if it’s a troll or bot. You are using misleading or fake sources to prove your points and purposely causing division. Classic Axiom strategies.
2. No one talks about our streetcar god Dave like that.
KCUR isn't a fake source and Dave is the one who started with the name calling / Religious bigotry.