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Gun Violence in KCMO

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Sad but interesting article. 477 victims in KCMO of gun violence. The distribution of shootings is not as predictable as I would have thought. Still quite a few shootings inside the loop and Crossroads area and a node of violence along SW Trafficway towards the Wesport area. I know these areas are not risk free, but more incidents than I expected. It doesn't help KCMO's image to show only the city proper - I suspect most of the inner burbs and KCK have their own issues.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/cr ... 13342.html
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I think the stuff that is happening in the Crossroads and SW Trafficway is due to late night partying in the P&L and Westport. Also a few months ago 31 and Gilham/Martini Corner had a rolling gun battle late at night and the main cause of this was from the club Called Empire Room in Martini Corner
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I always figured a lot of gun violence is because someone wasn't taught to be an adult.
I place that blame on each community someone lives within.
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"Gun violence?"
Since when did guns have the ability to walk around shooting at people?
"But the violence is particularly concentrated in certain neighborhoods. A central swath from Independence Avenue south to about Longview Road and between Troost Avenue on the west and Topping Avenue on the east saw most of the shootings."

" ____ violence" is the real issue.

If you have a brain at all you'll be able to fill in the blank.
That's what we are REALLY talking about here.
When will people wake up to reality?
Is it because you really don't care? I think it is.
You really don't care at all who lives and dies.
If you did you would acknowledge the REAL problem.
You would rather "group think" than acknowledging the core problem.
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Guns are an issue. How many people, houses, and cars can I shoot up going down a street with a gun or two, or more? Now, going down the same street how many cars, houses, and people can I hurt with knives?
I'm not about taking guns away but let's face it do we need people carrying around assault rifles?
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NorthOak wrote:"Gun violence?"
Since when did guns have the ability to walk around shooting at people?
"But the violence is particularly concentrated in certain neighborhoods. A central swath from Independence Avenue south to about Longview Road and between Troost Avenue on the west and Topping Avenue on the east saw most of the shootings."

" ____ violence" is the real issue.

If you have a brain at all you'll be able to fill in the blank.
That's what we are REALLY talking about here.
When will people wake up to reality?
Is it because you really don't care? I think it is.
You really don't care at all who lives and dies.
If you did you would acknowledge the REAL problem.
You would rather "group think" than acknowledging the core problem.
Whoa dude. I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make. There is nothing remotely racist, anti-gun, pro-gun, or political in any respect in what I posted. Simply pointing out that despite a few decades now of gentrification, downtown and other parts of midtown are not immune from gun violence, they were secondary nodes of activity on the map provided by the Star. And about gun violence, it's absolutely the appropriate term. While I was only parroting the Star article, if you happen to read the Star article, you will see that many of the 477 victims were not the intended victims and hit by stray bullets - and being injured or killed by stray fire is a side effect that is unique to firearms of all the weapons available in the urban arsenal so, yes, gun violence is exactly the term we need to be using. And as far as caring is concerned, 477 victims is roughly 1 per 1000 in a city the size of Kansas City. But that's on an annual basis, over a two year span it becomes 1/500. Concentrate that 1/500 in relatively small area of town and the risks of being hit by gunfire, whether one is the intended victim or not, becomes significant to all us and just downright scary to those living near the epicenter. So yea, we should all care about that.

You totally read something into my post that clearly was not there so in the future, try to be a little less assuming.
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Highlander wrote: Whoa dude. I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make.
Exactly, so why the long-winded retort at me?
My entire post has nothing to do with you and is aimed at the Newspaper article.

Until the press gets a clue and tells the truth, this issue will never go away.
There's no such thing as "gun violence."
The SAME people using illegal guns in an illegal manner are the "problem."
Those people are almost 98% of the perps and they are from 1 demographic.
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NorthOak wrote:
Highlander wrote: Whoa dude. I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make.
Exactly, so why the long-winded retort at me?
My entire post has nothing to do with you and is aimed at the Newspaper article.

Until the press gets a clue and tells the truth, this issue will never go away.
There's no such thing as "gun violence."
The SAME people using illegal guns in an illegal manner are the "problem."
Those people are almost 98% of the perps and they are from 1 demographic.
But how do you solve the issue? As I see it the issue is parents and how they raise their kids. Unless we start loosening how serious we take our Constitutional rights how do you force a parent to actually parent their child?
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SWFan wrote: But how do you solve the issue? As I see it the issue is parents and how they raise their kids. Unless we start loosening how serious we take our Constitutional rights how do you force a parent to actually parent their child?
My post is toward the press and media's misinformation by calling it "gun violence."
Guns are inanimate objects, people are violent.
This disingenuous political conspiracy from the leftist media and Democrat party have obscured the issue.
Is it any wonder the murder capitals of America are ran by Democrats?
That's the first way to combat the problem - call it what it is - black crime.

Solving the problem is an entirely different topic.
The demographic committing these shootings are almost always from single parent homes with no father around. :cry:
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A gun is more than an inanimate object. Guns are weapons. Weapons are used for inflicting violence and intimidation (the threat of violence).
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Wow, that was a quick thread!
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NorthOak wrote:
SWFan wrote: But how do you solve the issue? As I see it the issue is parents and how they raise their kids. Unless we start loosening how serious we take our Constitutional rights how do you force a parent to actually parent their child?
My post is toward the press and media's misinformation by calling it "gun violence."
Guns are inanimate objects, people are violent.
This disingenuous political conspiracy from the leftist media and Democrat party have obscured the issue.
Is it any wonder the murder capitals of America are ran by Democrats?
That's the first way to combat the problem - call it what it is - black crime.

Solving the problem is an entirely different topic.
The demographic committing these shootings are almost always from single parent homes with no father around. :cry:
Political conspiracy. Amazing.
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NorthOak wrote:"Gun violence?"
" ____ violence" is the real issue.

If you have a brain at all you'll be able to fill in the blank.
NorthOak wrote:The demographic committing these shootings are almost always from single parent homes with no father around. :cry:
You seem to be hinting at something,... but I can't quite put my finger on it. Care to fill in the blank for us?
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NorthOak wrote:
Highlander wrote: Whoa dude. I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make.
Exactly, so why the long-winded retort at me?
My entire post has nothing to do with you and is aimed at the Newspaper article.

Until the press gets a clue and tells the truth, this issue will never go away.
There's no such thing as "gun violence."
The SAME people using illegal guns in an illegal manner are the "problem."
Those people are almost 98% of the perps and they are from 1 demographic.
Well, when you put my post in quotes and repeatedly say "you", the logical conclusion is that it was directed at me.
But OK - I get it now.
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Highlander wrote: Well, when you put my post in quotes and repeatedly say "you", the logical conclusion is that it was directed at me.
But OK - I get it now.
No I didn't quote you. I quoted the news article.

I thought I was being clear that the media and politicians are getting it wrong because they don't care.
It's all a scam to get law abiding citizens to turn in their guns to the state.
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