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I really just don't understand how this happened. Did Google not realize that people live in apartments?
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They probably pulled the records from the city (because the county seems to be better with keeping track of apartment numbers from what I've looked up). With tens of thousands of addresses, whoever was in charge of that probably didn't really pay attention at all to what was being processed.
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They needed to do businesses downtown too.

Many are in the same buildings as condos. Like the company i work for is below 7 floors of residential.

A single business in a big tower could provide the access and pay for most of the install cost for the other units with premium business service
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OK so, out of the blue, "Eastern 49-63" jumped all the way up to 130 registrations, thereby meeting its registration goal and becoming the first large neighborhood on the east side of Troost to qualify. That is, of course, BS. Any ideas where all these ghost registrations materialized from?
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likely google cleared a backlog of people who were have problems registering. or, someone registered a large building(s) in a day. I know my neighborhood has over 50 with this problem and could one day "jump" up if they figure it out....plus we have a senior center that could be registered in a day and do the same thing...

or it is rigged and google is giving poor people preferential treatment. evil bastards :twisted:
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I didn't know something interesting was about to happen so I wasn't watching closely, but I do check the map several times a day. It's a compulsion. Anyway I *think* this neighborhood had 43 registrations left to meet its goal. I went away, checked the map an hour later, and suddenly it was green, having exactly matched its goal.
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There are all sort of registration drives going on all over town. I think it's likely that this was a combination of that and some larger apartment buildings getting worked out.
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They might also have gotten a bump from Rockhurst and UMKC students moving into rentals. I think this is move-in week.

However they did it, congrats.
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The KCMO public library is holding a drive to pay for people's google pre-registrations for two areas this Saturday. L.H. Bluford (Key Coalition North) and Southeast (South Town Fork Creek) with funding coming from the friends of the public library. More info here: http://www.kclibrary.org/blog/kc-unboun ... -august-25.

and there is paint the town green (which I believe may have been mentioned upthread) http://neighbor.ly/paintthetowngreen
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Crossroads had a nice jump, they only need 35 more and they are neck and neck with ilus w davis park, which needs 33. However, the crossroads has a better advocacy the my neck of the woods. The business district is doing better, but Quality Hill has a way to go. Is that fiberhood having registration issues as well?
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Pork Chop wrote:Crossroads had a nice jump, they only need 35 more and they are neck and neck with ilus w davis park, which needs 33. However, the crossroads has a better advocacy the my neck of the woods. The business district is doing better, but Quality Hill has a way to go. Is that fiberhood having registration issues as well?

Update: Crossroads at 27 more, ilus w. davis park at 30 more, business district at 161 more, columbus park at 88 more, Crown center at 83 more and Quality Hil at 229 more.
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two neighborhoods east of Troost are green.

one east of US 71 would be a coup.
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OK -- so how about this?

http://www.homesforhackers.com/
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OK -- so how about this?

http://www.homesforhackers.com/
sounds like an interesting idea. Hopefully anyone wanting to do this already knows the terms of service.
...Unless you have a written agreement with Google Fiber permitting you do so, you should not host any type of server using your Google Fiber connection...
... or use your Google Fiber account to provide commercial services to third parties (including, but not limited to, selling Internet access to third parties).
http://support.google.com/fiber/bin/ans ... &ctx=topic

Whenever google fiber was first announced and what we heard on the local news was something to the effect of it's going to be an experiment by google to see what people will do with a giga-bit connection. At first that sounded like (to me anyway) that they would let us run our own web servers from home, but now it looks more like they just want to offer a web browsing only service. However it does look like you can get written permission to run a web server, but do you think they will grant permission to anyone who wants to create a startup that might compete with their search engine, youtube, etc. ?

That said, anyone who has a startup idea that can succeed with google fiber where there would be no chance with cable/dsl I wish them luck and hope they can create a company that calls kc home.
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That is a wrinkle. Hopefully folks are inoculated by the fact that this is all volunteer on the part of the homeowners. And I don't read that "commercial services" line as saying that you can't use the Fiber account to do work. My husband works at home doing database management. If we get the service, then he will have to use it for work. Given the parenthetical, it read more that they don't want you opening an internet cafe. I could be wrong about that.
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yeah, I think it's a cya move.
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since google is focusing on residential before business, the terms I quoted probably only apply to the residential side. business accounts will most likely be able to run their own servers.

on the residential side the "commercial services" line should allow working from home, but they don't want people sharing the connection over wifi with their neighbors for free(or even if the neighbors all chip in for the cost). They want each household to pay for their own connection.

The homesforhackers idea will be great for people who can work from home and deal with large files all day, but might not work for someone who wants to start a web hosting company.
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heatherkay wrote:OK -- so how about this?

http://www.homesforhackers.com/
This made Ars Technica....
http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/08 ... gle-fiber/

Check out the anti red state comments.
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earthling wrote: Check out the anti red state comments.
It looks like there was really only two, and most of the other commenters tore into them.

My concern is that many seem to concern themselves about the Kansas side of things and, at least initially, comment as if it was just KCK getting the fiber.
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earthling wrote:
heatherkay wrote:OK -- so how about this?

http://www.homesforhackers.com/
This made Ars Technica....
http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/08 ... gle-fiber/

Check out the anti red state comments.
Such a tired trope. Anytime anyone from California starts in on that crap with me, I have two words for them -- Bakers Field. Upstate California is as reactionary as any middle-of-Kansas dry county. California just has enough cities to swing blue. If you look at the county-by-county breakdown of voting for the last few national elections, it pretty quickly becomes apparent that the divide in the US isn't red-state-blue-state, it's urban-rural. Some states just have more rural.
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