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This is the worst chart. Is this millennials living or working in the suburbs/core? Or both? And what is considered suburban - only other independent cities or just something that is X miles from the city center? Is all of KCMO considered city for this study or is the northland considered suburban?

Agree it's not clear. My guess that all of KCMO is considered 'city', not clear. But either way is interesting to see that no matter how 'city' is defined, KC 'city' is around same as other Midwest cities but 'suburban' is higher than others. If it's true most millennials want to be downtown/city core and a large base of above average pay millennials are in the burbs, it's that much more opportunity for downtown/city core housing to grow as the supply of above avg pay suburban millennials is clearly there, a larger suburban millennial base perhaps that would consider a move into city.

I would hope it's by zip code, but can't tell which Census data set they used.

KC ranks #2 for Best Job Markets for College Grads according to...
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/blog/best- ... rads-2017/

earthling wrote:KC ranks #2 for Best Job Markets for College Grads according to...
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/blog/best- ... rads-2017/

I have to wonder what's driving that ranking? Cerner?

Cerner highly likely #1 draw for college grads as they have been creating a lot of entry level jobs. Can't think of other local companies that particularly stand out hiring grads at high rate, maybe Garmin.

On a related note, KC's employment showed 3% growth for March year over year, which is in the territory of hot markets like Austin/Raleigh/Charlotte. Professional Services employment jumped significantly, nearly 7% beyond Austin/Dallas. Trade/Transportation employment also bumped up above avg.

https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.mo_kansascity_msa.htm

If we are able to mantain that, and if it correlates with a 3%. Growth in Kansas City proper as well we should easily hit 500k pop before 2020 and 2,350,000 in the metro.

KC metro hits 'hot market' territory on a stat here and there but yeah, it needs to be consistently across multiple stats longer term to have true momentum. True hot markets have a research university and/or many companies moving/expanding there. A decent airport as a mini-hub would help the latter.

Agreed, I think we definitely have the capability to reach hot market status, but we will have to be Dillingent and willing to get there. On the other hand I think we should realize we are extremely lucky to be anywhere near that point, as the rest of the Midwest is struggling to retain their own population.

It is curious that KC is at least forward moving for a Midwest metro. MSP/Indy/Columbus are doing better than avg as well but have state capitals that help and large universities.

KC lands on Top 10 Destination City list

"U-Haul released its annual Top 10 U.S. Destination City list, and Kansas City ranked No. 9, based on the number of arriving one-way U-Haul truck rentals in 2016."
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... -list.html

PC World's 14 High Tech Cities to Call Home. KC #9...
http://www.pcmag.com/feature/323932/14- ... all-home/9

KC metro ranks 22nd in 'tech sector', according to...
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... as.html#g1



16th in entrepreneur growth..
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... as.html#g3\\

18th in '% of workforce in a tech occupation'...
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... as.html#g4

19th in '% of workforce in knowledge occupations'...
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... as.html#g2

19th in '% of workforce with bachelor's degree or higher'...
http://crej.com/wp-content/uploads/2017 ... raphic.jpg

50 worst cities to live in according to...
http://247wallst.com/special-report/201 ... live-in/2/

KCMO managed to skip this list. KCK ranks 49th. Is just a list but interesting to read challenges other cities have (crime, poverty, education, cost of living). STL in top 5 and Springfield MO #12. Atlanta, Indy, SLC, Philly, Baltimore, Cincy have their challenges.

earthling wrote:50 worst cities to live in according to...
http://247wallst.com/special-report/201 ... live-in/2/

KCMO managed to skip this list. KCK ranks 49th. Is just a list but interesting to read challenges other cities have (crime, poverty, education, cost of living). STL in top 5 and Springfield MO #12. Atlanta, Indy, SLC, Philly, Baltimore, Cincy have their challenges.

These lists are absurd. St Louis makes the list because the city was locked in early by incorporation of the hinterland and there's no greater suburban area to dilute the lower incomes and higher crime rates etc... There are several cities on the list that I would love to live in (Salt Lake City) and many I would certainly not mind living in. To me, having outdoor opportunities, a non oppressive climate and being free from the hassle of horrific traffic is more critical than the other issues, all of which can be avoided. And there are several cities not on the list I would not live for any amount of pay - e.g., Houston.

Yeah all 'best/worst city' lists are pointless as everyone has their own criteria. This one does show some challenges with the 3-4 metrics they used, and they don't appear to be made up or irrelevant metrics. Calling it a worst city list is the problem, probably better to state as 'cities with challenges on combination of key criteria' but then it's not click bait, which is the point of lists for most sites and media in general.

This claims KCMO tech jobs have grown 157% over a year, ranking 5th in % growth. Seems high but looks to be KCMO city proper, not metro and it does appear (via BLS) that KCMO is getting a growth spurt with a slowdown in JoCo.

http://time.com/money/4812479/top-20-cities-tech-jobs/

KC near the top of another listing, ranking 2nd this time around for high-wage jobs.

http://www.startlandnews.com/2017/06/fo ... wage-jobs/

For those who think KC is still a segregated metro, it doesn't make it in top 16 anymore according to...
http://247wallst.com/special-report/201 ... america/2/

KC ranked 9th in 2015 by same site, though it looks like they only included MO side of KC metro in this list...
http://247wallst.com/special-report/201 ... -cities/2/