Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby kboish » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:37 pm

MO side of KC region has been dominating job growth the past year or two.

From September 2015 to September 2017, 78 percent of the metro’s employment growth was in Missouri. (This data is not seasonally adjusted so we need to use consistent months when calculating change to remove seasonal factors).

This local shift correlates with some significant changes at the state level. The chart below shows that statewide, Missouri and Kansas had similar annual employment growth from 2012 to 2014, with both adding somewhere between 15,000 and 25,000 new jobs a year. This was impressive for Kansas, given that it has less than half of Missouri’s total population. Missouri employment started to spike in 2015, while Kansas saw employment growth begin to slow. Missouri has been adding about 50,000 new jobs a year lately while employment change has actually turned negative in Kansas.


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Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics (CES)- as posted on http://www.kceconomy.org

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby beautyfromashes » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:06 pm

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=20230&p=560732&hilit=Swiss+Re#p560732
More people shouldn’t listen to me! Called this a year ago.

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby KCMOJoe89 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:00 pm

kboish wrote:MO side of KC region has been dominating job growth the past year or two.

From September 2015 to September 2017, 78 percent of the metro’s employment growth was in Missouri. (This data is not seasonally adjusted so we need to use consistent months when calculating change to remove seasonal factors).

This local shift correlates with some significant changes at the state level. The chart below shows that statewide, Missouri and Kansas had similar annual employment growth from 2012 to 2014, with both adding somewhere between 15,000 and 25,000 new jobs a year. This was impressive for Kansas, given that it has less than half of Missouri’s total population. Missouri employment started to spike in 2015, while Kansas saw employment growth begin to slow. Missouri has been adding about 50,000 new jobs a year lately while employment change has actually turned negative in Kansas.


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Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics (CES)- as posted on http://www.kceconomy.org


Does this mean the state of Kansas will finally agree to an incentive "cease fire", or will Missouri be the unwilling party if the metro's principal city is the beneficiary?

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby kboish » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:56 pm

Kansas has refused all past offers of cease fire. Even during the time period where they were not the metro leader in job creation.

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby beautyfromashes » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:20 pm

They won’t ‘cease fire’ until they are being beaten badly and it’s in their best interest to call for it. Of course, I trust them so little that I wouldn’t be surprised if they would break the agreement at the first chance to steal a large company.

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby kboish » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:30 pm

Johnson County is one of the only areas of growth for the state of KS. The state will do anything to keep JoCo growing.

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby Highlander » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:37 pm

Kansas scores a victory in the border war that, apparently, isn't over. One of the few they have had lately.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics ... 72644.html

Instead of offering this company a fortune to move a few blocks (literally), they should have been talking with Procter and Gamble

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/ar ... 88184.html

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby flyingember » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:13 pm

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 23009.html

company that closed in Riverside in the past to open a different business in Blue Springs

Faurecia Interior

300 jobs

no incentives mentioned either way

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby empires228 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:47 am

kboish wrote:Johnson County is one of the only areas of growth for the state of KS. The state will do anything to keep JoCo growing.


At this point its practically the only. Lawrence and Manhattan have posted pretty nasty job loses since last fall, and everything Lawrence tries to subsidize either closes or never shows up like the Menards plant they were supposed to get. There was no chance of the state keeping Proctor and Gamble. The plant was old and they wanted a new one in a state with cheaper labor, a tax break, and less harsh environmental regulations. Topeka has also reported a population loss and it's not like Hays, Hutchinson, Salina, Pittsburg, and Emporia are doing much for the states economy. Hays at this point is pretty much solely relying on the college and hospital. The state has thrown bones to Wichita on several occasions just to have incidents like the Boeing disaster (take the incentives and run) happen every time. Wichita employers seem to be reluctant to work with the universities there and constantly complain that they can't attract a workforce when in reality there is no reason they shouldn't be able to train one with three colleges in the city, a tech school, and three community colleges and two private colleges within an hour of the city. With WSU. WTI, Newman, Friends, Hutchinson Community College, Butler Community College, Southwestern College, Cowley County Community College, Bethel University, Sterling College, Bethany, McPherson College, McPherson Christian College, KSU Salina, Kansas Wesleyan, and Heston College all right there, they have no room to complain. I've heard the same about KC and they're in the same situation with easy access to KU, MU, UMKC, Missouri Western, Washburn...

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby brewcrew1000 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:54 pm

Isn't some of the areas in the SW part of the state seeing growth among the Hispanic Communities. Like Garden City/Dodge City area.

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby flyingember » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:40 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:Isn't some of the areas in the SW part of the state seeing growth among the Hispanic Communities. Like Garden City/Dodge City area.

Not just growth, some areas hispanics are already the majority of the county.

Seward County (Liberal) is 60% hispanic, 30% white. That's well beyond growth and into clear majority
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /PST045216

Kansas as a whole is around 11% hispanic but it's over 17% of births and 17% of school enrollment. That's a little over 1 in 6 students in the state.

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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Postby Highlander » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:29 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:Isn't some of the areas in the SW part of the state seeing growth among the Hispanic Communities. Like Garden City/Dodge City area.


Yes, that's largely related to the spread of corporate agricultural practices such as pig farming (especially pig farming in Kansas) that are relatively labor intensive but offer low paying jobs. Kansas counties can now vote to ban corporate pig farming - it will be interesting to see how many will. We just saw Tyson back off plans to go into what is nearly exurban KC (Tonganoxie - due to local opposition).


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