KCMO continues to grow

ShowME · Post by **ShowME** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:25 pm

Don't know how reliable a source this is but I found this on the web this afternoon. A list of cities in Missouri 2003 population. KCMO almost at 450k.

http://www.world-gazetteer.com/d/d_us_mo.htm

ShowME · Post by **ShowME** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:37 pm

I think I answered my own question. It seems that they took the average growth rate of Missouri and applied it evenly to all cities. Same goes for Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska etc. Although I do think KCMO is at least 450k.

KCDevin · Post by **KCDevin** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:56 pm

huh? we are at least 450k if not over by now since 2003 is ending.
Wow, (only thing i noticed)
Wichita is at 346.7k
St. Louis is at 354.6k
Omaha is at 391.4k
... so much for being the largest city in missouri by encyclopedia standards (they always go by city population)
Most populated cities in MO:
1. KC 37th largest *
2. STL 51st largest **
3. Springfield 140th largest
4. Independence 210th largest *
5. Columbia 323rd largest
6. STJOE 392nd largest *
7. LS 411th largest *
8. STCH 512th largest **
9. STPT 665th largest **
10. Florissant 682nd largest **
11. Blue Springs 725th largest *
12. Chesterfield 742nd largest **
13. O'Fallon 757th largest **
14. Joplin 777th largest
*= in KC area (even outside metro)
**=in STL area (outside metro also)

phxcat · Post by **phxcat** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:37 pm

Those numbers can't all be right, at least in Kansas. It shows Olathe, Overland Park, and Shawnee growing at a snails pace, like 1,000-2,000 each from 2000-2010. Each of those should be at least ten times that.

ShowME · Post by **ShowME** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:12 pm

Exactly and it show's KCK adding the same amount of population as Overland Park. I have no idea how they came up with these figures.

KCDevin · Post by **KCDevin** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:28 pm

i dont know either, because STL was to be passed by Wichita this year.

phxcat · Post by **phxcat** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:46 pm

I could see St. Louis rebounding, but they would need to first stop the decline, then start the growth- they were in an all-out population free fall through the last few decades.

Post by **bahua** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:57 am

OP has only slightly more people in it than KCK.

St. Louis is still much more of a major city. In about 1983, KC narrowly passed St. Louis in population. However, St. Louis has had right about 60 square miles of land, and has gone from 850,000 people in 1950, to less than half that now. Nevertheless, they still have 360,000 people or so, in that same 60 square miles.

In 1950, Kansas City had 456,000 people(more than now) in about 80 square miles. Now, there are about 20,000 fewer people, in about 320 square miles. KC used to have a real city feel to it, when our parents were kids.

ShowME · Post by **ShowME** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:47 am

KCMO had 441,000 people in 2000 now it's probably close to 450,000 and my guess will be 475-485k by 2010.

Post by **bahua** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:07 am

My guess, if we can get land tax off the ground, is 1-1.4 million.

phxcat · Post by **phxcat** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:04 pm

According to the World Ga2ateer, Harrisburg, PA has gone from 52,000 in 1990 to 49,000 in 2000 and 49,000 in 2003.

Post by **bahua** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:25 pm

Yeah, but Harrisburg had no vast swaths of empty/suburban/wooded land. Kansas City does.

Post by **mean** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:25 pm

Harrisburg-Lebanon-Carlisle, PA Population by Decades
(stats: US Census Bureau)

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Date 	Population 	Change 	
1900 	244,877	    -	-
1910 	274,332	    29,455	 
1920 	297,721	    23,389	 
1930 	322,314	    24,593	 
1940 	348,070	    25,756	 
1950 	398,706	    50,636	  
1960 	462,506	    63,800	 
1970 	510,291	    47,785	  
1980 	555,158	    44,867	 
1990 	587,986	    32,828	 
2000 	629,401	    41,415

"Since 1990, Harrisburg's population has increased by more than 30 percent - the most growth of any city in Linn or Lane County. It appears that the growth will continue." -- Harrisburg City Administrator Bruce Cleeton

I had a hard time finding good statistical data on Harrisburg, but the US Census says city pop in 2000 was 49,000. The City of Harrisburg says their population is 53,000. Either way, Harrisburg is not and will not be a major destination for migration with NYC, Philly, and Pittsburgh so nearby. That they've gone from 4,000 abandoned buildings in 1982 to less than 250 in 2003, and gone from being a "distressed" city (as defined by the Federal Government) to having one of the highest quality-of-life ratings in the country, is a major improvement with or without the large gains in population I'd hope for in KC.

Post by **bahua** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:09 am

I agree, but I would like to add that a high quality of life attracts residents, and vice-versa, and so forth. Once the cycle is started, it's hard to slow down. But, city governments always find a way.

jcr · Post by **jcr** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:37 pm

I dont know where that website got its numbers either. Did anyone notice that Emporia gained 3000+ since 2000? Yeah right! They also say that Lawrence only gaine 5 or 600 people. Meanwhile OP and Olathe gained a few thousand. Those numbers are too conservative. Event he census bureau says Olathe is the 14th fastest growing city in the US. So that website cant be right.