KCRag Forum

agreed. maybe Gehry would come up with a crappy plan. in that case, i'd say ditch him. i guess the PROSPECT of the world's most famous architect helping to design a $250M building in KC is just pretty awesome. that's my whole point. a bad design is a bad design no matter where it comes from. i've go...

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precisely. Gehry's our man!

ok Captain Skeptical... of course he hasn't had that much experience with arenas... THAT'S WHERE HOK COMES IN. HOK doesn't have experience building great looking buildings. THAT'S WHERE GEHRY (or someone like him) COMES IN. that's my whole argument. maybe i am just an avant-garde architecture fanati...

exhibit one: NJ Nets arena. exhibit two: extensive portfolio of great buildings. i am sure that HOK would be doing the "arena" stuff while Gehry would be doing the aesthetic stuff. both are uniquely qualified to do each. heh, i like how i am the Gehry apologist. clearly i am the only one h...

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hopefully the South Loop stuff won't repeat these pitfalls. it's not terribly walkable right now. i hope it will be!

heheh. i think the evidence can be seen at HOK's webpage. their portfolio is extensive. their projects are all high quality facilities to be sure, but lacking in the aesthetic department. i don't know about the other "3 largest," but it's difficult to become that huge by pushing too many b...

^ sure, others can. it's just that most DONT. i dont care if it's "Gehry" or another influential, creative architect. i'd be just as cool with a Koolhaus or (another) safdie or something like that. HOK are great at what they do, but i think having someone like Gehry (if not Gehry himself) ...

^ hopefully HOK would rein in such eccentricities. i think having the arena designed by Gehry would be a huge boost to downtown's stature. i dont care if 9 of 10 kansas citians think it's ugly (most think his work IS ugly), but i think it's a good idea to have a bold landmark building. it can be a s...

no it's in a new-ish strip center over off 470 and Douglas. there is an applebee's, sprint store, panera, megaplex movie theatre, etc in there too.

WRONG. heheh. it's already open. my parents and i got pizzas there last weekend! (the LS location). it was great. here's what we got: (1) 12" Waldo Veggie on honey whole wheat crust. grade: A (2) 12" with eggplant, roma tomato, and spinach. grade: B (eggplant just ok). (3) 12" with mu...

i hope JoCo residents protest this infiltration of dirty pinko french establishments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

heheh.

seriously, this sounds great. it's cool when an indoor mall can score tenants no one else has. oak park is a good mall.

that wildcat drawing looks like really bad ClipArt.

move the Kings here and call them....THE KINGS.

RETURN OF THE KING(S)

Bluestem got a great review this week in the Pitch. check it out!

a KCMO one would be cool.

Brookside = BKS
Quality Hill = QH
Hyde Park = HP
Valentine = VAL
Meyer Circle = MC
Plaza = $$$
Independence = METH (or possibly PWT)

and so on....heheh

i read in the pitch that Trocadero fired the head chef. sounds like he was the force behind the quality food...hope they can recover.

that's a blow to a neighborhood many are arguing was "developed too prematurely." check out the pitch.

i just saw this bad boy for the first time last weekend.

it looks like a friggin' Kohl's.

down with OP's aim to be a real city!!!

never been there, but some friends of mine think Joe D's is glorious. i'll have to check it out.

i am pleased that a metro county was included in the list, since many folks who read the lists think they are legitimate. it's just a tad frustrating that the counties included on lists like this are 99% of the time just like JoCo. JoCo is a great example of a whitebread suburban county (that is lar...

Loudon county? johnson county? rochester, MN?

apparently a chief factor was "Rich White People."