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by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:45 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Another day, another leak out of the Jackson County Executive Office ostensibly for the sole purpose of killing any momentum the Royals may have. Not from his office. From a member of the legislature uh huh. "A recipient associated with the Legislature provided a reporter with a copy because t...
by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:32 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

DMNBT_RCJH wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:03 pm Another day, another leak out of the Jackson County Executive Office ostensibly for the sole purpose of killing any momentum the Royals may have.
Not from his office. From a member of the legislature
by aknowledgeableperson
Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:39 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Let's talk baseball! We even had recent news on this with Jackson county apparently not approving what the royals wanted. Not sure how the JaCo legislature as a whole feels about supporting a downtown stadium but my assumption is that if that is what KCMO wants then let KCMO solely have a tax to su...
by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:25 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

"Chiefs fans care bout tradition. It's not just ownership. I think we are more similar to Buffalo than most other football cities and the fact they are building a brand new open-air stadium in a very cold climate speaks a lot to what their fans consider Buffalo Bills football." Can you ima...
by aknowledgeableperson
Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:43 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

"Option 2: 300-350 million dollars over a twenty-year-period." The Royals take out a 20 year loan with these funds paying P&I over that period. Clearly the county is unhappy with the team leaving TSC and this shows it. "Won't pass a vote" At this point of time that is quite p...
by aknowledgeableperson
Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:26 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

My thought was maybe Jackson Co finally started negotiating with them in good faith and so now they're having to delay to get it done. They are still saying April vote so timeline overall is the same. My take is the Royals put the cart before the horse. Is the county blameless? Of course not but th...
by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:05 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

TheUrbanRoo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:03 pm Also I don't think we're discussing enough the very realistic possibility that this vote fails in Clay and the aftermath of what will happen with that
And there is a very realistic possibility that the vote fails in Jackson County.
by aknowledgeableperson
Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:42 am
Forum: Kansas City Sports
Topic: NBA to Kansas City
Replies: 375
Views: 184607

Re: NBA to Kansas City

I'm surprised how few people mention the KC Comets as being one of the reasons the Kings attendance went down. The Comets were very popular and outdrew many NBA and NHL teams during their peak years. A year before the San Francisco Fog moved to KC and became the Comets the Kings entertained the ide...
by aknowledgeableperson
Mon Aug 28, 2023 3:17 am
Forum: Kansas City Sports
Topic: NBA to Kansas City
Replies: 375
Views: 184607

Re: NBA to Kansas City

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jCYSvC-xsc How Kansas City Lost Their NBA Team Some truths and some untruths in his comments. One item that was overlooked was how free agency affected the Kings. The ownership did not have deep pockets and when the Lakers signed Jabbar to a salary that was more the...
by aknowledgeableperson
Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:31 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Whether the post is accurate or not there is a lot of anti-Royals downtown stadium sentiment out there among Jackson County citizens. The passage of the sales tax extension, even with the tie-in with the Chiefs, is not a guaranteed passage. A big sales job is going to be needed. I don't know what w...
by aknowledgeableperson
Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:53 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

"The entirety of the sales tax is unlikely to go towards just building the stadium." The sales tax is just for the stadiums. If a portion goes to the other items listed that will not leave much for the stadiums themselves. "Especially since Royals ownership will be counting on the rev...
by aknowledgeableperson
Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:41 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

So the post and the comments aren't accurate or representative of the voters but let's extrapolate it's going to need a big sales job. Lol As someone says their perceptions are their realities. And for the people who replied to the post it is representative of more than just one voter. Whether a ma...
by aknowledgeableperson
Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:15 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Whether the post is accurate or not there is a lot of anti-Royals downtown stadium sentiment out there among Jackson County citizens. The passage of the sales tax extension, even with the tie-in with the Chiefs, is not a guaranteed passage. A big sales job is going to be needed.
by aknowledgeableperson
Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:38 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

One person's comment on a Facebook page. Of course the comment was supported by many. "Anyone wish to enlighten me and name at least one professional sport stadium moved from a suburb or outskirts into a downtown? I'll buy that one beer to prove me wrong but I don't think there has been even on...
by aknowledgeableperson
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:31 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Money usually talks. How much is Merriman willing to kick in, if any?
by aknowledgeableperson
Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:32 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

"A salary cap is just a mechanism for the owners to ensure they pocket a higher share of revenue, and it isn't going to help a team that just fundamentally doesn't know how to develop talent in the first place (nor is it necessary for a team that does: see, e.g., Tampa or Cleveland). The NFL's ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:13 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

As for attendance, I expect both NorthKC and Downtown will see an average game attendance higher than the current Stadium location since more people live close by. People will feel like it's not a big hassle to drive out to the suburbs, pay to park in a large lot, and deal with potential traffic is...
by aknowledgeableperson
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:08 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

"Hell, look at everyone who says they do not want a downtown baseball stadium. Yet that is happening despite their grievances."

Hasn't become reality at this point in time.
by aknowledgeableperson
Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:21 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Already both teams are talking about extending the sales tax for 40 years so it would appear the teams are looking for a much bigger taxpayer subsidy than in the past. Having a full roof over the stadiums will be costly. Do the benefits outweigh the cost? I seriously doubt it. Having a partial roof ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:40 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9304
Views: 12217132

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Interesting article on both the Royals and the Chiefs and their stadiums. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mcdowell/article277944563.html And yes, Jblanco, it does mean breaking the lease. This scenario would create a new and/or renegotiate the old. Your ignorance is invincib...