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If anyone hasn't had a chance to check out elbr's (a very vocal part of the streetcar opposition on reddit and twitter) post on reddit for his Alternative Transit Proposal, please do. This is his proposal to fix KC transportation issues. http://www.reddit.com/r/kansascity/comments/2cy49u/alternative...

SMART KC even goes back to the 'gerrymandering' argument they like to use as an excuse to do nothing. Forgetting to mention that a county(?) wide tax is in place for an arguably broken bus system, that they also don't want to improve! They are essentially saying "oh well the streetcar people ar...

I've mentioned this in another thread. Maybe it was a little too ambitious? Starting with Brookside and then lumping in Eastside and Linwood seemed like a big undertaking. Although Brookside was eventually removed from the equation, I agree with the original post here it probably stirred up more tro...

If anything the loss of the election can serve as a major benefit to the project as a whole. The next expansion probably wont be voted on until the starter line opens. At that point the city can shove jobs numbers and city improvements in the oppositions face giving them no real case against the str...

Was it that phase 2 was too ambitious? Should phase 2 maybe have been only the plaza line and Prospect MAX? I voted in favor of it =/ lame sauce that it lost. I don't think it was too ambitious... Not criticizing just curious as to why it failed. I agreed with phase 2. Personally I consider the str...

Was it that phase 2 was too ambitious? Should phase 2 maybe have been only the plaza line and Prospect MAX?


I voted in favor of it =/ lame sauce that it lost.

Eventually if there is enough demand I could see the phase 2 expansions to the streetcar integrating in into a commuter rail system. That's part of the reason why I'm so behind the expansion. It looks and feels like the city is planning for the future of transportation in downtown and it's extremely...

I agree and I attempt to inform anyone that I run into or know who asks about the streetcar. I give them low down of both sides. Ultimately letting them know that I'm for it because of the great opportunities it brings to KC. Above was me more or less ranting about the straw man arguments that are r...

Their main argument is that busses already serve the purpose of the streetcar. Anything more than what we currently have now is an expensive boondoggle that can never be planned correctly by the city due to X (fill in X with anything that the city has messed up in the last 5-10 years). Adding to the...

separately, the city and modot have an agreement to cap the sales tax increase within the new and existing TDD at 1%. for example, if the 0.75% statewide sales tax passes the TDD sales tax would be set at 0.25% -- making a grand total of 1%. in exchange, modot would provide funds for the streetcar....

DST has put the kibosh on a contraflow bus lane on 12th VOTE THEM OUT...oh, wait. Where Tony's obligatory "Democracy is Dead'' post? Where Bryan Stadlers outrage? Where's Joe Smith calling people pussies and retards? Where's Sue Burke's "Brookside" Facebook page against DST making po...

School's are on their own for sewer protection because the city has effectively written them off. They are instead deciding to turn KC into a streetcar utopia. Where downtown will only have streetcars and no people..... ever.

Thanks for the reply. I know its pointless to argue with people who have already made up their minds on the issue but it's a little frustrating to see them blatantly misinforming people. This will help me call them out a little bit and attempt to keep them honest.

I'm a little new here so if this needs to go somewhere else or if this question has already been answered please let know. How do you guys handle the detractors of the KC streetcar expansion? These are some of the arguments I've read: 1. Saying that the benefits of the streetcar aren't properly vett...