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by aknowledgeableperson
Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:12 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Forget the voters. The Royals and local governments have to find a way to pull off a downtown stadium without a vote of the people. The Chiefs on the other hand can go to the voters without the tag along Royals and likely get approval for Arrowhead improvements.
by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:46 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

if/wherever new stadiums are built in/outside of the region, will it be with public money approved by the local voters or just the elected officials of the local jurisdictions? From an article I read the latest stadium/arenas are being built without a vote of the taxpayer. Done with private money a...
by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:34 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Fuck Frank White. Lying ass unintelligent fool who let his personal opinions steer his actions and pretended it was all for the people. The two year hold out and property tax disaster had a big part in this. You are giving White far too much credit. At first he was working on trying to get a deal f...
by aknowledgeableperson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:33 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

They lost it in February (months after the site should have been locked down) when they chose EC. It was lost at the very first announcement when it was said the team was moving on from The K. The Royals thought they could ride on the coattails of the Chiefs with the belief the voters can't say no ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:29 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

In thinking about why the issue lost one reason could be much of the public wasn't given a valid, in their eyes, reason why The K had to be replaced. Both stadiums were in many ways similar but one could have its life extended for another 25 years or so while the other was a total mess just waiting ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:24 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Interesting results. Not surprised by the vote percentages but was definitely surprised by the large NO vote percentage in the KC portion of the county. It looks like some on here blame Frank White but I think his stance was more in alignment with the NO voters and maybe more of the YES side should ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:59 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

DColeKC wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:16 am I saw KCTenants were up to their lies last night. They were continuing to push the idea that this is a new tax.
If I remember correctly technically it is a new tax. If it passes the old tax is set aside and in its place is a new tax, for the same amount, that will expire in 40 years.
by aknowledgeableperson
Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:44 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Whomever wrote this sounds like an idiot. There is a saying that goes something like this "A person's perspective is their reality." I don't think that makes them an idiot. If that is the case according to you there must be a bunch of idiots out there. They have their legitimate concerns ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:38 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Comments by one who has long term ties to KC. "Subject: ROYALS OWNERSHIP TO KANSAS CITY: ''LET THEM EAT CAKE.'' Hello Mr. Helling, [Feb 13, 2024] I've read some of your articles on this subject and must lead off with the disclaimer that my work schedule is such that I could well have missed tha...
by aknowledgeableperson
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:27 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

As far as my thoughts on this passing. I'm not sure still. Honestly I get the same vibes as I got with the city proposed light rail plan. Everybody all along said it was very close 50/50 and I felt like it had a chance of passing, but it failed by quite a bit. I think this might get voted down by j...
by aknowledgeableperson
Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:04 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

The old fire department has been gutted and converted into a residence. The only thing reminding us it’s a an old fire station are people on this forum and a sign on the exterior. Not hardly worth keeping as it’s history has already been stripped clean. It has been awhile since I have been downtown...
by aknowledgeableperson
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:18 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

It's exhausting. It really shows the lack of understand many people have about wealth in general. I wonder if they thought in everyday people terms if it would help. If I own a $500,000 dollar house and have a few paid off cars, I'm worth say $600k but does that mean I have 600k available to go bui...
by aknowledgeableperson
Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:37 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Two items. I saw a few commenting that the proposed stadium would have the smallest seating capacity for MLB. First I heard of this. Second, early voting has been much higher than in past April elections. Of course no results of vote totals. Election officials are expecting a voter turnout of close ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:08 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

If the Royals were smart they would de-couple the K from their ask for a tax to support a downtown stadium plan. The "Save the K" crowd would instantly be mooted if there was no indication that the K was "Going away". The county preparing a demo RFP and the Royals indicating tha...
by aknowledgeableperson
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:05 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Saving a couple buildings east of Oak doesn't prevent the Royals from building Hotels and Apartment buildings over there, I don't see what the big deal is. You could save half the buildings on Oak, save the fire station, and still fit 10+ one light size buildings between Oak/Cherry/Truman/17th I'm ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:08 am
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

As much fun as it might feel, re-litigating this now isn't going to do anything. the city knew they were going to dip into the general fund. Did they know at this level for this long? I doubt it but probably should have anticipated it. The city might have known but that wasn't the story being told ...
by aknowledgeableperson
Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:21 pm
Forum: New Stadiums Discussion
Topic: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Replies: 9014
Views: 9342015

Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium

Im too young to remember the whole Sprint Center/PNL process. Was it as bad as this one? If memory serves me well the Sprint Center was mainly objectionable because people still say Kemper as a decent venue with debt still outstanding on it. Also it was built on the speculation that a NBA or NHL te...
by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:10 pm
Forum: Downtown
Topic: OFFICIAL - East Village
Replies: 1910
Views: 287136

Re: OFFICIAL - East Village

There seems to be a lot of interest in rowhouse type of development to buy but it's hard for individual developers to get financing/permitting on it so that to me is something the city could step in and help seed. I think rowhouse type housing would be a good fit for the area. Could be a mixture of...
by aknowledgeableperson
Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:46 am
Forum: Downtown
Topic: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza
Replies: 478
Views: 346267

Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

I think bringing in a private operator for the convention center assets, which is done in many cities, was the right choice by Platt. Too bad the council killed that idea. Would have been great to have someone really pushing BAP use The BAP has had some use in the past for events. Gay Pride used it...
by aknowledgeableperson
Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:49 am
Forum: General Kansas City
Topic: Sad...
Replies: 52
Views: 2144

Re: Sad...

"Let's further lay the ground work by... - Mandating new subdivisions resemble old neighborhoods down in the city. Have a mix of detached single-family, row homes, and small apartment buildings lining new streets that are laid out in a grid. - Main avenues should automatically be higher-densit...